About 2 Stroke oils

[fatboy67]

I have brought for $24 5 litres of outboard 2 Stroke
That is $24 Aus dollars

Valvoline Outboard 2 Stroke
NMMA TC-W3 Synthetic Fortified Marine Oil
Enhanced Deposit Protection.

It says suitable for water cooled AND Air cooled engines.

I haven’t use any of it as yet and still have the receipt So I can take it back for a refund, But I can’t see why it wouldn’t work in my 48cc HT motor.
Can anyone tell me if I should not use it???????

MBC EDIT: THIS THREAD HAS BEEN MOVED

 

[Skyliner70cc]

Hi,
As a motorized bike forum, you will be hard pressed to find an unbiased opinion. I suggest you take your question to www.bobistheoilguy.com Just don't call your engine a happy time and explain you want to use this oil in a poor quality Chinese built 2 stroke engine. You'll get some great answers.

 

[Pablo]

BITOG in the Power Sports section is good advice.

Ideally that oil isn't what you want in this engine. OTOH, mixed rich enough it will work.......but no promises.

 

[fatboy67]

Is there a reason that you know of. Is it to thin. I have emailed Valvoline to see what they say.
I haven't used it as yet and I can return it. It does say that you can mix it with unleaded or leaded petrol, it is for water cooled and air cooled motors.

I just wanted to know if it's not suitable......OK why? I'm hoping that Valvoline will answer this. I have a boat but it's not a 2 Stroke. I know that you can't use a cheap 2 Stroke oil in a outboard, but I thought that you might be able to use a quality 2 stroke outboard oil in a cheap air cooled motor. I suppose I will have to return it. As I have been writting this a friend on the phone said that Valvoline have a 4 litre oil for my bike around the same price.

 

[jesse8931]

there isnt any difference between outboard 2 stroke and other 2 stroke oil. i run valvoline multi purpose 2 cycle oil says its for lawn mowers, chain saws, outboard motors, jet skis, motorcycles and snowblowers

 

[Skyliner70cc]

there isnt any difference between outboard 2 stroke and other 2 stroke oil. i run valvoline multi purpose 2 cycle oil says its for lawn mowers, chain saws, outboard motors, jet skis, motorcycles and snowblowers

There is a difference but there are also oils such sa the one you use that have multiple certifications and meet specs for both. Blanket statements that they are no differences aren't completely accurate.

Here is a good read regarding differences: http://www.theultralightplace.com/choosing_oil.htm

 

[arceeguy]

My understanding is that it is fine to use TCW-3 oils with air cooled engines, as long as those engines aren't considered "high performance". "High performance" 2 strokes would be the ones in dirt bikes, and snowmobiles. Weed trimmers and happy time engines will probably be fine. When I owned a boat, I used Mercury outboard oil in all of my lawn and garden equipment. Now that I don't own a boat, I use Mobil 1 MX2T Synthetic in all of my 2 stroke equipment. Mobil discontinued it a little while ago, but there are a lot of quality synthetic 2 cycle oils out there. These bikes don't use much fuel, so why skimp?

 

[mark2yahu]

Outboard motor marine oil should be fine for a land-based machine such as a motorized bike.

There must be some difference in the formulation of marine oil; maybe it takes into consideration the seawater that is in the air where these engines are operating.

On the subject of 2-stroke oils, a friend of mine recommended "Royal Purple" 2-stroke oil. I don't know anything about it, but I know that all of his HT bikes run well.

 

[alex]

tc-w3 ooutboard oil is meant to run in a much cooler-running engine (all outboards are water-cooled) so, the oil isn't as thick or lubricating as air-cooled engine oil. And if you put that oil in a very hot-running ht engine at the same mixture, and run it for long periods of time, you might have an engine failure.

 

[spad4me]

I wish my local stores would carry royal purple 2 stroke oil.

Outboard motor marine oil should be fine for a land-based machine such as a motorized bike.

There must be some difference in the formulation of marine oil; maybe it takes into consideration the seawater that is in the air where these engines are operating.

On the subject of 2-stroke oils, a friend of mine recommended "Royal Purple" 2-stroke oil. I don't know anything about it, but I know that all of his HT bikes run well.

The best local oil is on clearance due to the EPA.
Mobil 1 2t for $1.00 a quart.