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Mopeds
State legislators define a moped as a vehicle fitting all of the following criteria:

Pedals that allow you to propel the vehicle
A seat for the rider
Three or fewer wheels
Motor of two-brake horsepower or less
Maximum speed of 30 mph on level ground
Automatic power-drive system
Displacement of 50 cc or less (for those with an internal combustion engine)
Mopeds need to be registered at a county tax collector office. The registration fee is $19.10, and you must renew your registration every year. Thankfully, you don’t have to pay the $100 initial registration fee.

You’ll receive a motorcycle plate for your moped. If you’re under 21 and the registration is in your name, your plate will have a distinctive design and color.

Moped drivers need to have at least a Class E driver’s license, and be 16 or older to drive a moped on a public road. A motorcycle endorsement isn’t required.

You will not be allowed to ride your moped on bike or foot paths. All passengers under 16 must wear a helmet.

Moped drivers aren’t required to carry Personal Injury Protection insurance.

Be aware that moped drivers have the same rights and responsibilities as other motorists. And, yes, moped drivers can receive traffic tickets, too.




Here’s number 28 on the list from 320.01 for which the entire page covers nothing but what the state considers to be a motor vehicle and therefore must be registered.

(28) “Moped” means any vehicle with pedals to permit propulsion by human power, having a seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels, with a motor rated not in excess of 2 brake horsepower and not capable of propelling the vehicle at a speed greater than 30 miles per hour on level ground, and with a power-drive system that functions directly or automatically without clutching or shifting gears by the operator after the drive system is engaged. If an internal combustion engine is used, the displacement may not exceed 50 cubic centimeters.
 
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Go to the State of Florida website...myflorida.com, then look for the Florida Statutes,Title XX111, that defines a motorized bike...show this to this cop.
 
Here ya go.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/STATUTES/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0316/SEC003.HTM&Title=-%3E2008-%3ECh0316-%3ESection%20003#0316.003

This is only for electric bikes though.


The 2008 Florida Statutes

Title XXIII
MOTOR VEHICLES

Chapter 316
STATE UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL

316.003 Definitions.--The following words and phrases, when used in this chapter, shall have the meanings respectively ascribed to them in this section, except where the context otherwise requires:

(1) AUTHORIZED EMERGENCY VEHICLES.--Vehicles of the fire department (fire patrol), police vehicles, and such ambulances and emergency vehicles of municipal departments, public service corporations operated by private corporations, the Department of Environmental Protection, the Department of Health, the Department of Transportation, and the Department of Corrections as are designated or authorized by their respective department or the chief of police of an incorporated city or any sheriff of any of the various counties.

(2) BICYCLE.--Every vehicle propelled solely by human power, and every motorized bicycle propelled by a combination of human power and an electric helper motor capable of propelling the vehicle at a speed of not more than 20 miles per hour on level ground upon which any person may ride, having two tandem wheels, and including any device generally recognized as a bicycle though equipped with two front or two rear wheels. The term does not include such a vehicle with a seat height of no more than 25 inches from the ground when the seat is adjusted to its highest position or a scooter or similar device. No person under the age of 16 may operate or ride upon a motorized bicycle...
 
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I understand all of this. The one problem is that I have no VIN number. Without this, the DMV is telling me that it cant be done?
 
good to go -- go

Also what do I do to make a bill of sale?

ok -- there are times when we have to do what we have to do

maybe have someone ELSE make out a bill of sale for you

including bicycle serial number - date - signature and selling price


maybe this is not the THING to do
but - if we have no bill of sale - we need to do someTHING

note -- a good THING to do first
call your local pooolice with the serial number from your bicycle
tell them that you are just making sure that it wasn't stolen at any time
then when they say you are good to go -- go

ride that THING
 
it's not hard to ride that THING

I understand all of this. The one problem is that I have no VIN number. Without this, the DMV is telling me that it cant be done?

as mentioned before

stamp one in as needed

if your bicycle has none -- stamp one in

if your engine has none -- stamp one in

come on now -- it's not hard to ride that THING
 
Once again, a motorized bike is NOT a motor vehicle as long as it complies with Title XX111 of the Fl. Statutes....you don't need a vin number, tag, licenses, or insurance...the cop is just WRONG....print out the laws and show it to the cop...he won't like it but....what can he do about it?
 
Once again, a motorized bike is NOT a motor vehicle as long as it complies with Title XX111 of the Fl. Statutes....you don't need a vin number, tag, licenses, or insurance...the cop is just WRONG....print out the laws and show it to the cop...he won't like it but....what can he do about it?

How is an electric helper motor the same thing as a Honda 50cc?
 
All it takes in Fl., where I live also, is a cop with a bad attitude, & he can make it rough on MB riders. If you read the law, " to the letter," as we used to say, many are out there breaking the law, everyday, by riding their MB. This is also true in other states. I have said it before; " Once these forms of transportation become more popular; the more riders going as fast as they can ; the more noise they make ; the more complaints about these ,,, the more you will see the MB regulated,,, if not outlawed in some states & areas."
The serial # is on the bottom bracket, or rear wheel dropout, for the bike. This will determine year it was made, if that will allow you to register. Also, ask if you can register it as a homemade moped. Many in Fl., have to do that with their trailers, & boats, & it is allowed. GOOD LUCK !
 
Hey bro... where are you at? just in case.... well i live in orlando and since this week i started going to work with mi bike ( love my bike!) but i havnt registered it... what did they do to you when they pull you off for first the time? I am rolling my thing no matter whom it doesnt like it! ive seen cops on my way and they have just laughed... u know... is like everything u have pigs and you have real cops... maybe that one doesnt have anything better to do... but yea where are u at man?
 
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