Rhett
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Well ,what is the answer to that question--Best commercial E bike on the market? Fact is, it only exists in your own mind and for your own needs and desires,,, with that said, I have found an answer, and it is the E+ BIKE made by Electric Motion Systems--( www.electricmotionsystems.com)
Some of you may recall an earlier question of mine in this forum: "What is the best commercial electric bike available in the 1-3 Thousand dollar range". I got a number of responses, the majority said there really is not a "best" answer to that, you must "Go West Young Man" and build your own to get what you want or percieve to be the best with todays electric technology based on range, speed, function, looks and affordability. As much as I appreciate the the ' you have to build your own' answers, I wanted to stick to the 'root' of my question, and that was, 'Commercially available'. Hey, I know some stuff about Brushless Motors, and battery technology, speed controls, dedicated chargers, electronics and other stuff from my years in larger RC electric planes and choppers, one of the main things that I also know about that is that they are expensive and the technology is always changing to stay on the cutting edge, but, to be honest with you all, even though I know a few things, I am by far --Not an expert--at any of it! I will leave that 'EXPERTISE' to you engineer types and rocket scientists in this field of electric bikes. What I am good at is looking at data and deciding what is good on the market and then buying it much to my wifes 'dismay'. She calls herself 'The RC-Widow'!! I have done quite a bit of research on electric bikes, mostly on the internet and through phone calls to people in the industry. A great deal of the most recent developments in electric powered 'anything' has to do with electric motors and the batterys that power them. some ( many) years ago alls we had was 'brushed motors' and 'Ni-Cad' batterys. But within the last 5-10 years 'brushless' electric motors and NMHD, Lithium Ion, and Lithium Poly batterys have gained favor both in the RC world and other applications as well, such as electric bikes, power tools and lap tops.
The new motor technology kind of speaks for itself, the old 'canned' brushed motors are still popular in some applications, but the newer 'brushless' inrunner and out runner motors are rapidly gaining in favor due to better efficiency levels. Same goes for the batterys. Alot of people in the 'electric bike world' praise the Nickle Metal Hydride batterys and granted, they are good and a great improvement over the older Nickle Cad batterys,, NMHD can hold a great charge, they have little inherent 'memory' so far as charge and discharge goes, they can be 'fast charged at greater than 1-2 'C' and they tend not to explode (unlike lithium polymer) if mis-used or abused. But I think that as advanced as we are in Motor and Batt technology, we are on the 'cusp' of even greater things to come. For the 'moment' Nickle Metal Hydride batterys hold a good place for electric bikes, they are fairly safe, hold and discharge good power and are realatively cheap and superior to Ni-Cads in some ways. If the application warrants it, try to choose a 'brushless' motor over a 'brushed motor' due to efficiency and long lasting reasons. ( I will leave it to the' rocket scientists' to tell you why). The reason that I have mentioned The E+ bikes made by Electric Motion Systems is NOT because I am Married to some one in the company, nor do I hold stock in the company, or am I a paid 'spokesman' But I do know a bit about some things electric and I sure as **** am good at looking things up and listening to what others have to say about things. I AM NOT GOOD AT BUILDING AND DESIGNING ELECTRONIC GIZMO'S, and although many of you are good at that ,,from the very start I wanted the best that I could afford that was already commercially avialable from what I thought was a company that knows more about building electric bikes with solid, dedicated components than Walmart knows about importing from someplace in China. Alright,, before some of you tear apart what I am saying here or the fact that I just dropped big bucks on on this companys 1000 watt Beach bike cruiser, I would at least urge you to go to that companys website, look at the bikes, the specs and the company in at least some depth AND THEN make some informed comments. Hey I do'nt like spending alot of money on '**** after ****' but I took what I knew, added it to what other people know and have been talking about and this is what I chose based on all of that--take care,, Rhett--PS,,I paid over 4000$ for my bike, more than my original 1-3000, range but its all relative if you have researched it and still think your getting a good deal
Some of you may recall an earlier question of mine in this forum: "What is the best commercial electric bike available in the 1-3 Thousand dollar range". I got a number of responses, the majority said there really is not a "best" answer to that, you must "Go West Young Man" and build your own to get what you want or percieve to be the best with todays electric technology based on range, speed, function, looks and affordability. As much as I appreciate the the ' you have to build your own' answers, I wanted to stick to the 'root' of my question, and that was, 'Commercially available'. Hey, I know some stuff about Brushless Motors, and battery technology, speed controls, dedicated chargers, electronics and other stuff from my years in larger RC electric planes and choppers, one of the main things that I also know about that is that they are expensive and the technology is always changing to stay on the cutting edge, but, to be honest with you all, even though I know a few things, I am by far --Not an expert--at any of it! I will leave that 'EXPERTISE' to you engineer types and rocket scientists in this field of electric bikes. What I am good at is looking at data and deciding what is good on the market and then buying it much to my wifes 'dismay'. She calls herself 'The RC-Widow'!! I have done quite a bit of research on electric bikes, mostly on the internet and through phone calls to people in the industry. A great deal of the most recent developments in electric powered 'anything' has to do with electric motors and the batterys that power them. some ( many) years ago alls we had was 'brushed motors' and 'Ni-Cad' batterys. But within the last 5-10 years 'brushless' electric motors and NMHD, Lithium Ion, and Lithium Poly batterys have gained favor both in the RC world and other applications as well, such as electric bikes, power tools and lap tops.
The new motor technology kind of speaks for itself, the old 'canned' brushed motors are still popular in some applications, but the newer 'brushless' inrunner and out runner motors are rapidly gaining in favor due to better efficiency levels. Same goes for the batterys. Alot of people in the 'electric bike world' praise the Nickle Metal Hydride batterys and granted, they are good and a great improvement over the older Nickle Cad batterys,, NMHD can hold a great charge, they have little inherent 'memory' so far as charge and discharge goes, they can be 'fast charged at greater than 1-2 'C' and they tend not to explode (unlike lithium polymer) if mis-used or abused. But I think that as advanced as we are in Motor and Batt technology, we are on the 'cusp' of even greater things to come. For the 'moment' Nickle Metal Hydride batterys hold a good place for electric bikes, they are fairly safe, hold and discharge good power and are realatively cheap and superior to Ni-Cads in some ways. If the application warrants it, try to choose a 'brushless' motor over a 'brushed motor' due to efficiency and long lasting reasons. ( I will leave it to the' rocket scientists' to tell you why). The reason that I have mentioned The E+ bikes made by Electric Motion Systems is NOT because I am Married to some one in the company, nor do I hold stock in the company, or am I a paid 'spokesman' But I do know a bit about some things electric and I sure as **** am good at looking things up and listening to what others have to say about things. I AM NOT GOOD AT BUILDING AND DESIGNING ELECTRONIC GIZMO'S, and although many of you are good at that ,,from the very start I wanted the best that I could afford that was already commercially avialable from what I thought was a company that knows more about building electric bikes with solid, dedicated components than Walmart knows about importing from someplace in China. Alright,, before some of you tear apart what I am saying here or the fact that I just dropped big bucks on on this companys 1000 watt Beach bike cruiser, I would at least urge you to go to that companys website, look at the bikes, the specs and the company in at least some depth AND THEN make some informed comments. Hey I do'nt like spending alot of money on '**** after ****' but I took what I knew, added it to what other people know and have been talking about and this is what I chose based on all of that--take care,, Rhett--PS,,I paid over 4000$ for my bike, more than my original 1-3000, range but its all relative if you have researched it and still think your getting a good deal
: Either way it definitely looks to be a comfortable bike and with the hubs it will have oodles of grunt no doubt! I often hear stats are over stated by the sellers (i am not suggestion this seller his just generalizing) would be GREAT to get some 'real world' figures of distance charge time and just general reveiw and your impressions of the bike, i think for 4k the more info a prospective buyer has the easier it might make it to part with the $$$ knowing it does do what the makers claim...if you follow my me ...
