florida legislation- a possible solution

In terms of Titles and Registrations, it IS considered a Bicycle

For Licensing (Driving) and Traffic Control situations, it's considered a Moped. It does not and CAN NOT be titled or registered (in ANY municipality), but you still need a DL to ride a Motorized (gas) Bicycle on the road for 95% of the towns/counties in Florida.

There are a few exceptions in Florida where you can ride a Motorized (gas) Bicycle without the need for a DL, but there are VERY FEW!
(To find out if your town is one that allows Moped riders to not require a DL go to municode.com.)

The topic referring to Florida's legalities of Motorized (gas) bicycle has been discussed time after time....

The above paragraph is the ultimate answer to all and any questions about Florida.

Be aware that some of the things posted earlier are from more than 20 years ago and the statutes they refer to have been changed and edited, however as stated earlier in this post, there are a few municipalities that have yet changed their local laws so you'll be good to go in those cities.
 
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If you don't have a license, or a tag, don't even think about riding a MB in FL, just ask me how I know.

The state wants to put me in jail for 60 days for a bicycle, but first-time suspended-license offenders in cars, in the same courtroom as me, with the same judge, just get offered a fine, and an offer to reinstate their license.........WTF

In other words, the state will come down harder on you if you have a bicycle. I had an undercover tell me the number of cc's don't even matter, and you have to be electric only, but even then, they will "routinely" stop ANY motorized bicycle to check you out. Talk about PROFILING!!!

IMO, it's best to get a license, and lie to the DMV and tell them it's a moped or motorcycle to get a tag, because if you tell them it's a bicycle, they won't help you. FL SUCKS!

I'M WORKING ON MY LICENSE, SO I CAN RIDE A LITTLE EASIER!

You will get watched like a hawk by police in FL on any bicycle, motorized or not. Even on my pedal-only bike, I get watched by cops, and even had some floor it while riding really close to me to scare me in the bike lane. I'm planning on getting a good camera ready to catch these illegal azzh0les. :devilish:

Also the other day, when walking across the road with the walking sign saying it was OK to WALK, I almost got hit by a cop car, while I was on foot!!! :eek:

Good luck, and safe riding folks. FLORIDA SUCKS, and not just because of my experiences, but MANY here that get unjustly picked on by the PIGS (People In Green Suits)

They are getting more corrupt, and they are getting away with it, unless we the people WAKE UP and do something about these CRIMINALS with a lucky LEO job!
 
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If you don't have a license, or a tag, don't even think about riding a MB in FL, just ask me how I know.

The state wants to put me in jail for 60 days, but first-time offenders in cars, just get a fine.........

IMO, it's best to get a license, and lie to the DMV and tell them it's a moped to get a tag, because if you tell them it's a bicycle, they won't help you. FL SUCKS!

You will get watched like a hawk by police in FL on any bicycle, motorized or not.

What happened to you? This is the first I've heard from you in a while....
 
Well, despite things we said, you were right in so many ways about the cops, despite the technical differences of the machines we ride. They should have never f'ed with you on your electric bike, and they really don't like my bike. I was going probably all of 15mph taking a turn when I got pulled over by an UNDERCOVER in a RED IMPALA!

Both times I have had major trouble with cops, it was UNDERCOVERS in IMPALAS every time!

I'M BLOWING THEIR COVER, LOOK OUT FOR THEM!

BTW, they quoted a FL statue about bikes having to be electric to not require a license, but they still will check you out. It's messed up. I'm now planning to build an Electric/Gas Hybrid motorcycle in the future, and I want OUT OF FLORIDA!

Good luck to you sangesf, and to all the other ryders out there. It's a rough world, when you are just trying to make it in life.
 
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In terms of Titles and Registrations, it IS considered a Bicycle

For Licensing (Driving) and Traffic Control situations, it's considered a Moped.

I have to quote this, because other riders need to see this again!

It's stupid that a bicycle can be considered both a Bicycle AND a Moped, but in FL, that's how they take it, so beware folks, and enjoy your riding.
 
The gas / hybrid is a good idea. The main problem with it is shock proofing the gas generator. I've tries a milion ways to do it and the problem is either not enough shock protection or too much and it overheats. If you can find a viable way of doing it let me know.

Just remember, don't have the "hybrid" bike, electric AND gas motorized, have it use a gas generator to provide electrical power to re-charge a battery which powers an electric motor and even then it might still be considered a moped by the legislature.

What did the cop do after he pulled you over and what did the judge say?
 
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I have another court date, so we'll see what happens, but I'm not going to jail again for riding my bike, screw that.

I wouldn't recommend gas anything, despite electric, generator or not, because I told the cop I need the gas engine as a generator to charge my lights, and the cop said, if it's even found idling, I'll be taken to jail if found riding again, and that he was going to spread the word to the other Polk County cops in the area!!! He also asked me if I had any drugs or weapons on me, or if I was trafficking anything! I just had clothing and food on my trailer!!!!

Stay away from Polk (Meth) County! They assume everyone is a criminal running drugs!

Be careful all FL riders!
 
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I have another court date, so we'll see what happens, but I'm not going to jail again for riding my bike, screw that.

I wouldn't recommend gas anything, despite electric, generator or not, because I told the cop I need the gas engine as a generator to charge my lights, and the cop said, if it's even found idling, I'll be taken to jail if found riding again, and that he was going to spread the word to the other Polk County cops in the area!!! He also asked me if I had any drugs or weapons on me, or if I was trafficking anything! I just had clothing and food on my trailer!!!!

Stay away from Polk (Meth) County! They assume everyone is a criminal running drugs!

Be careful all FL riders!

I guess the Nazis control the Polk county sherrif's dept. When's the court date? If I'm in the area and/or have time to, I'll go to court too to give you some moral support.
(plus ride my electric bike around the court house for hours just to **** them off and there's nothing they can so about it. Lol
 
I thought this idea up about a year ago and I think it is briliant. A lot of places will allow you to register your bicycle at the police station for theft purposes. Register your bicycle at the police station. Then put a motor on it. Now it is registered as a bicycle for sure, and has to be a bicycle. Also check your city ordinances here in Daytona there is a city ordinance that says a motorized bicycle is okay. Here is how you can check the city ordinance. http://www.municode.com/RESOURCES/OnlineLibrary.asp
 
how to register a moped in Florida

(77) MOPED.—Any vehicle with pedals to permit propulsion by human power, having a
seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not more than three wheels; with a
motor rated not in excess of 2 brake horsepower and not capable of propelling the vehicle at a
speed greater than 30 miles per hour on level ground; and with a power-drive system that
functions directly or automatically without clutching or shifting gears by the operator after the
drive system is engaged. If an internal combustion engine is used, the displacement may not
exceed 50 cubic centimeters.
http://www.tampagov.net/dept_police/Files/legal_docs/fss_316-003.pdf

Take a copy of this with you :
http://www3.hsmv.state.fl.us/Intranet/dmv/Manuals/DMVProcedures/BTR/RS/RS-61.pdf

In Florida a motorized bicycle is a bicycle with an electric motor.

A moped is a bicycle with an internal combustion engine 50cc or less.

A motorized bicycle (electric motor) does not need a tag and you don't need a drivers licence to ride it.
http://www.veloteq.com/laws_florida_electric_bicycles.htm

A moped requires a drivers licence and tag.

Quote :Accordingly, I am of the opinion that Chapter 08-117, Laws of Florida, authorizes the imposition of a $1,000 traffic fine for the failure to keep both wheels on the ground while riding a motorcycle or moped and for the failure to have the motorcycle or moped license tag properly affixed.


http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/Opinions/1E63803FC08696808525750700587C5A

So, don't get caught doing a wheelie without a tag ! Big fine ! ! ! :mad:
 
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