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25mph is enough. Anything more than that and this sport is going to get banned.
It goes both ways, Man.
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It goes both ways, Man.
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Banning of the sport? Nahh, we will just get tickets for unlicensed vehicles like any other Joe tinkerer.
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When someone rides a bike down a hill they go faster than they go up. It's not unusual for an ordinary bicycle rider to go 40 to 50 mph on a downhill and that's without any special motor helping them. I have a hill nearby which is posted at 40 mph and I've coasted down it at times when the motor was broken and I'd get up to at least 40 mph without any power at all.
The 20 or 30 mph speed limit only applies to motor created flat land speed.
18 hp on a bicycle would translate to about 100+ hp equivalent on a motorcycle because of the power-to-weight ratio. It's the sudden rush of power that gets people in over their heads. It's already completely illegal to have that much power just about anywhere, so I guess since you are already illegal that you can't get in much more trouble. However, I dislike the fact that it's so seductive to so many... it's hard to push the idea of an "Electric Bicycle Road Racer" with all it's sophisticated design when someone else just sticks a big motor on a bike and calls it a monster.
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Think of things from the larger perspective... if you really want to get into "Big Power" then wouldn't it make more sense to get into an electric motorcycle?
My concept (still evolving) is to keep the power down and then focus on improving the efficiency by reducing the wind resistance, improving the powerband shape (things like Inductance motors and flat torque curves) and making sure that the handling can perform when the rider needs proper handling.
This should really be discussed on the "Politics and History" thread as I created it specifically for this topic.
"Big Power" just sort of dwarfs the whole concept of an ebike. Ebikes are supposed to be very limited in power... that's why they are ebikes and not emotorcycles.
The "bottom line" is that ebikes with that much power destroy what I'm trying to create... (so you see why I'm against it)
Your success in creating "Big Power" is a problem in the bigger picture.
The 20 or 30 mph speed limit only applies to motor created flat land speed.
18 hp on a bicycle would translate to about 100+ hp equivalent on a motorcycle because of the power-to-weight ratio. It's the sudden rush of power that gets people in over their heads. It's already completely illegal to have that much power just about anywhere, so I guess since you are already illegal that you can't get in much more trouble. However, I dislike the fact that it's so seductive to so many... it's hard to push the idea of an "Electric Bicycle Road Racer" with all it's sophisticated design when someone else just sticks a big motor on a bike and calls it a monster.
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Think of things from the larger perspective... if you really want to get into "Big Power" then wouldn't it make more sense to get into an electric motorcycle?
My concept (still evolving) is to keep the power down and then focus on improving the efficiency by reducing the wind resistance, improving the powerband shape (things like Inductance motors and flat torque curves) and making sure that the handling can perform when the rider needs proper handling.
This should really be discussed on the "Politics and History" thread as I created it specifically for this topic.
"Big Power" just sort of dwarfs the whole concept of an ebike. Ebikes are supposed to be very limited in power... that's why they are ebikes and not emotorcycles.
The "bottom line" is that ebikes with that much power destroy what I'm trying to create... (so you see why I'm against it)
Your success in creating "Big Power" is a problem in the bigger picture.
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18 hp on My Road Racer?
It's scary to even ponder what 18 hp would do on my Road Racer bikes.
I'm already getting up near 50 mph with just 750 watts of power and I'm still improving on the aerodynamics. With 18 hp I'd be able to get to speeds near 100 mph. That's just so wrong.
Frankly I like the fact that my speeds are limited by power because that keeps me from getting into too much trouble.
It's scary to even ponder what 18 hp would do on my Road Racer bikes.
I'm already getting up near 50 mph with just 750 watts of power and I'm still improving on the aerodynamics. With 18 hp I'd be able to get to speeds near 100 mph. That's just so wrong.
Frankly I like the fact that my speeds are limited by power because that keeps me from getting into too much trouble.
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You are just as illegal as I am any way you look at it. Also, you completely ignored my comment about the fact that you call much more attention to yourself going very fast than I do running a modest speed with a huge amount of power still on tap if I want it. My trike is a sleeper. Your "Bikes" are the reverse. They look fast just sitting there. Looking fast is cool. But, that calls attention to you. You are NOT going 50mph on 750 watts. You are using almost twice that and you know it. You are illegal also, period, end of story.
Also, I never said anything about going down hill.
Lastly, you still do not get the fact that VERY few people have any interest in road racing e-bikes. In fact, when comparing our two vehicles, you are the one who should go with a motorcycle. If anything, I would be looking at a go-kart.
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Also, I never said anything about going down hill.
Lastly, you still do not get the fact that VERY few people have any interest in road racing e-bikes. In fact, when comparing our two vehicles, you are the one who should go with a motorcycle. If anything, I would be looking at a go-kart.
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Wow, whenever Safe posts on my threads, they die.
Frustrating.
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Frustrating.
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Nahh, he just chokes off all the other posters with his multiposting. How many threads are there on induction motors in here? How many of his own threads are nothing but him posting to himself, the same information over and over? People try to initiate conversation but there is never any indication that he actually reads the post since he just rehashes his earlier thoughts without rebutting to raised concerns.
I just got a alpha version of Castle link that has better low speed control and better control over high induction motors. May not affect the astro motors much, but it is a good firmware.
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Cool. I would love to see how it does with low RPM on my trike. That thing is so freaking explosive that I need to make sure the low RPM is a smooth as I can get.
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