Cleaner burning 2 stroke engines...

it's really starting to make me sick !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hearing all these idoits talk about electric power being green !!!!
IT"S NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLO !!!!!!!!!!!
last time i looked coal was not green !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gas is greener than coal !!!!!!
coal has mercury in it, gets in our lakes kills fish , you eat it !!!!
How is that GREEN !!!!!!!
also the batterys with all kinds of bad stuff in them will contaninate the earth for 10,0000 years !!!!!!

So run out and buy that Chevy Volt for $ 40.000 becuse .........

ELECTRICITY IS GREEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GM is going to go down the tubes again, Wonder if there will be bailout 2.0
coming soon to a bank near you......

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ROFL ......not going to get into i see its pointless...best of luck with your two strokes in the future anywayz fellas...you'll need it :p

KiM

ROFL right back at ya! Of course you don't want to discuss it because you have no valid arguments for the merits of electric powered lawn equipment other than they are supposedly "green".

Until we find inexpensive and clean ways of producing AND storing electricity, the internal combustion engine (2 or 4 stroke, wankel, whatever) will be the dominant source of power. That is, until the greenies regulate the ICE out of existence.

Heck, our county golf courses ditched their electric golf carts in favor of gas powered carts.
 
Not trying to start WWIII

Just gets to me all of the green stuff nowadays....
Dont get me wrong !!! Iam all for it !!!!!!
but it just seems to be a marketing issue since very little humans do is really green!!!!

So if you say it's green it will sell.....

Let really do somthing about it and stop talking green to make ourselves feel less guilty for distroying our planet !!!!

We need a Manhatten project for electricity ...
The goverement need to get the best minds and put billions into it
if we can produce electricity without pollotion of any kind and produce enough and store it.. We could all drive electric vehicles.

The sun shows the most potential, its renewable at least for 500,000 more years till it burns out. it's predictable, The energy generated buy the sun in one day could power the whole world for a year. If we can store it walla problem solved. There some scientest working on a giant battery the size of a city block the used crushed sea shells and water to store electricty..like a giant battery. Right now in Saudi arabia they are building a complete city the is renewable, from scratch !!! We can learn from them !!! they have plenty of oil but still are concerned about the future of energy.
 
well i read up on that article

"The MCZ33812 is a commercial grade device available now for production at a suggested resale price of $1.70 (USD)"

this seems to be the central controller of the system, and that's pretty cheap if you ask me

is it the sensors and other devices that add a significant cost?

Hmmm..
"Available now for production at a suggested resale price of $1.70 (USD) in 10,000-unit quantities."

Do you want to buy 10,000 of them to get that price? ($17,000 worth)
The technonoly may be here, but the affordable price point is not quite here yet.

I would not mind a fuel injected weed eater, Grube 2-stroke, or DAX Titan if it will only cost $50.00 or so for the whole conversion package.
I would certainly get better fuel economy out of it, and because of that it probobly would pay for itself in a few tank fulls.
 
ROFL right back at ya! Of course you don't want to discuss it because you have no valid arguments for the merits of electric powered lawn equipment other than they are supposedly "green".
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HAHAHA yup yup thats it got it in one...:: rolls eyez:: its obvious by your mentality it would be pointless even trying to educate you and the other like minded members here that are oh so convinced electric is so much more inferior...:) Best of luck running you stinking p i ss poor powered china gurl motors then hehehe ...In ~10 years time i forsee emission control laws so tight you wont be able to fart in the open air...And your know the BEST part noddy, it don't matter what your view is on it or where you OR I for that matter stand, we WILL see electric take over in many many areas in the very near future like it or not :) Stockpile your stinking china gurls wont do you an ounce of good, it willbe plain as day to the LAW they don't meet emissions as they leave a traile of smoke and stink in their wake best of luck keeping the bikes on the road...you'll need it HAHAHA..Me i'll happily crusie by in silence...oops...no i wont...i wouldnt have been behind you in th first place :p :p :p
All jokes and snipes aside IF i were you I wouldnt be overly concerned buddy, advancements in technology is a good thing, AT LEAST these little motors will have some design changes for the first time since...well...their invention! If your honest you would HAVE to admit the perfoamce of a china gurl is nothing but pathetic for a 50cc engine considering 15hp is possible from a a sub 50cc motor~ With some improvements You might actually get something that resembles "performance" from the lil motors ...


Have a nice day :)
 
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HAHAHA yup yup thats it got it in one...:: rolls eyez:: its obvious by your mentality it would be pointless even trying to educate you and the other like minded members here that are oh so convinced electric is so much more inferior...:) Best of luck running you stinking p i ss poor powered china gurl motors then hehehe ...In ~10 years time i forsee emission control laws so tight you wont be able to fart in the open air...And your know the BEST part noddy, it don't matter what your view is on it or where you OR I for that matter stand, we WILL see electric take over in many many areas in the very near future like it or not :)..........

This is not about what you call "china gurl" engines, this is about ALL small utility engines and engines used in receational vehicles like PWC, ATV's, etc.

Once again, as usual, people like you use overly restrictive regulations to get what you want. You basically have to regulate small ICE's out of existence to cram expensive, underpowered, cr@ppy electric powered things down consumers throats.

If electric lawn mowers were so good, they would sell on their own merits and wouldn't need the elimination of other alternatives to make them viable.

You know I'm right, and you've got absolutely nothing to counter the facts that I have placed before you. All you can do is attack me personally.
 
Freescale Small Engine Controller

Our son-in-law is an engineer with Freescale locally. His specialty is automotive products and these would be his area.

Not sure this is one of his products, but all the engineers seem to get into all of their products one way or an other.

Anyway I emailed him regarding oil injection control for 2 strokes? The mechanical oil injector on my 1970 Yamaha 175 trail really cleaned it up over the prior engines that were pre-mix. I would guess it is still plenty dirty. The stroke of the oil pump was controlled by the throttle position. As I recall the mix could go as high as 250:1?

Will advise if I learn anything.

Jim
 
You know I'm right, and you've got absolutely nothing to counter the facts that I have placed before you.

No i think your wrong but as i said its pointless debating with someone with your attitude, you LOVE your ICE and wont consider any alternative can be as good as it...fair enough your entitled to your opinion, i think your wrong we shall agree to disagree.

I'll put this too you though, If small ICE motors are so great why do electric motors of comparable size have more Torque AND thats instantaneousness maximum torque? be very interesting to hear how you turn this around....

All you can do is attack me personally.

What!@!#@!@>>> goodness me cant take light hearted banter i see..need a tissue ?

Have a nice day...

KiM
 
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