Al.Fisherman
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98% of all Harleys are on the road...the other 2% made it home.
Starfire GT50 engine fires up but stalls prematurely
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98% of all Harleys are on the road...the other 2% made it home.
professor
Active Member
Al- that remark was really good!
Not true but funny. ( I don't have a Harley- rode by buddy's reworked 1200 Sportster and was shocked at how fast it is, and mimimal vib.)
Not true but funny. ( I don't have a Harley- rode by buddy's reworked 1200 Sportster and was shocked at how fast it is, and mimimal vib.)
HyYuckYuckYuck.....
You should stop wrenching on other people's Harleys then!
They really are not that bad at all. Yes, they do need more maintenance then metric bikes.
Ok, I am done. Thread hi-jack over.
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Reguarding probable too rich fuel mix
Hey guys,
Just been running my first build trying to get it finished however in my efforts to be better safe than sorry, combined with my first time fuel mixing, I think i've most likely quite richly overmixed my oil to fuel.
Seems to me that this is now causing some real problems with starting the engine, I removed the spark plug and it was covered in a thick black carbon.
I cleaned it off and reinstalled it but upon removing it again it had black rings on the outer casing of the spark plug.
It also seems possible that dispite my best efforts washing out the fuel tank, from some collected particles in the fuel line, maybe some small particles got in there?
Anyway. As far as I can tell I just need a way to clean it out, as it still seems to be trying to turn over just fine.
Thanks peeps
Hey guys,
Just been running my first build trying to get it finished however in my efforts to be better safe than sorry, combined with my first time fuel mixing, I think i've most likely quite richly overmixed my oil to fuel.
Seems to me that this is now causing some real problems with starting the engine, I removed the spark plug and it was covered in a thick black carbon.
I cleaned it off and reinstalled it but upon removing it again it had black rings on the outer casing of the spark plug.
It also seems possible that dispite my best efforts washing out the fuel tank, from some collected particles in the fuel line, maybe some small particles got in there?
Anyway. As far as I can tell I just need a way to clean it out, as it still seems to be trying to turn over just fine.
Thanks peeps
ToeCutter66
New Member
I am kind of a newb around here, but I believe that too much oil in the fuel will cause a lean running condition. Try re-mixing the fuel at a recommended ratio and running it again. It might be extra oil fouling the spark plug, not too much fuel in relation to fuel/air ratio.
Try one of those cheap plastic fuel filters, and pop off the carb bowl and see if it is full of crud.
You might also want to try a slightly hotter plug.
With this being said, I have yet to ride a HT bike, I am still working on mine, but I have experience with 4 stroke air cooled bikes.
Good luck, let us know how it goes.
Try one of those cheap plastic fuel filters, and pop off the carb bowl and see if it is full of crud.
You might also want to try a slightly hotter plug.
With this being said, I have yet to ride a HT bike, I am still working on mine, but I have experience with 4 stroke air cooled bikes.
Good luck, let us know how it goes.
For sure get a good small external fuel filter and remove the in-tank filter before you do anything.
Just get a new plug at this point.
Mix up a 25:1 fuel to oil mixture, which is 5.1 fl oz (5 oz is fine) oil to 1 gallon (128 fl oz) of fuel. Use a good oil.
You may need to clean the carb.
Give it a go.
Just get a new plug at this point.
Mix up a 25:1 fuel to oil mixture, which is 5.1 fl oz (5 oz is fine) oil to 1 gallon (128 fl oz) of fuel. Use a good oil.
You may need to clean the carb.
Give it a go.
H
HoughMade
Guest
Lets be clear...and this is a bit of a hobbyhorse issue for me. Too much oil is simply too much oil. It is not "rich". Save the terms "rich" and "lean" for describing the ratio of fuel to air...and nothing else.
When speaking about gas and oil, state the ratio of use the terms "more oil" or "less oil" or some such...this helps us to keep from getting 2 issues confused.
It is true that too much oil causes a lean fuel condition because if there is more oil in the mix, there is less gas and therefore less gas to mix with the air.
I agree with Pablo and Toe- mix up some fresh gas, drain out the fuel, and give it another shot.
When speaking about gas and oil, state the ratio of use the terms "more oil" or "less oil" or some such...this helps us to keep from getting 2 issues confused.
It is true that too much oil causes a lean fuel condition because if there is more oil in the mix, there is less gas and therefore less gas to mix with the air.
I agree with Pablo and Toe- mix up some fresh gas, drain out the fuel, and give it another shot.
Mountainman
Active Member
sounds like too much oil
sounds like too much oil
maybe we may try a visit to the local auto store
buy a -- 2 cycle measuring cup makes it so very easy
there has been so much said regarding proper mixture around site ??
25 to 1 while brake in ??
32 to 1 after break in ??
I like mine a little rich ---------- sorry for using the wrong term
just a little smokey -- seems to keep that THING running okee dokee
MM
sounds like too much oil
maybe we may try a visit to the local auto store
buy a -- 2 cycle measuring cup makes it so very easy
there has been so much said regarding proper mixture around site ??
25 to 1 while brake in ??
32 to 1 after break in ??
I like mine a little rich ---------- sorry for using the wrong term
just a little smokey -- seems to keep that THING running okee dokee
MM
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