Honda 35 vs. Robin 33

I doubt you could go wrong either way. I guess for me the deciding factor would be servicability and the availability of parts locally.

Yes, I agree, whichever you can best get your hands on you're way ahead in the game. These debates remind me 'back in the day' when guys argued Ford/Chevy. Either one is a lightyear ahead of the current china 2 strokes.
 
i've experienced the honda on a DE when the guys were in town, and i have ongoing direct experience with the RS...without some serious comparison time i'd never know the difference in that power-class...the RS is one fine engine, i can't say it's better than the honda but i CAN say it would be hard to get better...1st-pull starts, plenty torque for a 35, smooth & very very quiet.

yup, asking "what's the best?" is tricky territory, but at least in this case you are comparing apples & apples....i'd expect long-term comparison results to be pretty much neck & neck :)
 
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I think this is case of shills jumping in to discredit Honda, but anyone who has manufacturing experience can examine both engines and come away with the fact the Honda is higher quality in every aspect right from the machining to the assembly.
Not to mention in back to back test the Honda makes more power throughout the rpm range.
Cost was not a consideration but compare apples to apples the purchase price of either engine is within $10 of each other.
Country of origin means nothing when you are talking about manufacturers of Hondas caliber.
Don't tell me Japland is so hot these days when Toylet is recalling their cars left and right.
Its an outright racial slur to say that japanese workers are better than thais. Its not about the worker, its about design and process control, in a modern manufacturing plant the associates on the plant only perform a small portion of the overall picture, if the process control in place is working correctly anyone can duplicate the quality achieved in any other plant and Honda acheives that.

In a low performance application such as MBs the Honda and R/S will satisfy most people,the RS falls short of my high performance applications and my opinion is reflected by this.
 
Thailand is not Japan--just like when Chrysler and GM builds stuff in Mexico it often is inferior!!

I feel the same way about when GM builds stuff in Canada...but back to the issue at hand.

I have never seen any objective tests that could give the edge to one or the other, Thailand or not.
 
I bought two mexican built trucks. I was worried the workmanship was not going to be as good as american. They were the best trucks I ever had. I asked someone why they thought a mexican who makes 8 bucks an hour could do a better job than an american making 4 times as much with bennies. The answer was the mexican had no job security so he did his very best every day. With 200k miles neither truck had a single rattle or squeek. Was pretty amazing. I would gladly buy another mexican truck any day of the week.
 
I feel the same way about when GM builds stuff in Canada...but back to the issue at hand.

I have never seen any objective tests that could give the edge to one or the other, Thailand or not.
No i dont blame you for feeling that way-especially with current economic situations-and your also right about an objective test ! On the Subaru i would like to see a better way to drain the oil (like an oil plug) it is a bit of a hassel using a turkey baster or trying to turn the engine upside down.
 
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what have you learned dorothy?

are both the honda & robin complying with the new regs? i know the RS is but dunno about the honda. are they both tagged in california as "extended?" if so, then you can count on either one lasting for a good long time (300 hours = 9,000 MB miles) provided you know what to expect from 35cc's...because...why would you put an expensive catalyst that will last 300 hours on an engine that will not? noone puts that much into certification without putting some decent bearings & such in there too.

that pesky label is good for something after all.
 
A shill is person who is paid to help another person or organization to sell goods or services. The shill pretends to have no association with the seller/group and gives onlookers the impression that he or she is an enthusiastic customer. The person or group that hires the shill is using crowd psychology, to encourage other onlookers or audience members (who are unaware of the set-up) to purchase said goods or services. Shills are often employed by confidence artists. The term plant is also used.

What type kit are you running there, Old Bob?

Got a picture of your motorized bike?

I'll admit to being an idiot on MB.search, but I haven't noticed maybe 10-20 Honda GX35's on motorized bicycles, and 2 of those were mine.

A lot of these "which is best" threads are started by window shoppers. I only know when I had a plastic gas tank problem on an early install, the Robin-Subaru rep in California called me, sent a free replacement, no questions asked and it arrived in 2 days.

If that's shilling, I'm guilty.

The Honda site:

http://www.honda-engines.com/engines/gx35.htm

The Robin Subaru site:

http://www.robinamerica.com/pfeatures.aspx?pid=49

Flip a coin.....
 
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