Did a little thinking and decided to not buy any china girls

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Decided to not mess with china girls anymore.last 3 been a headache and I desire something with quality like a morini.All the vendors here sell the same old cheap 2 stroker and the expensive 4 strokers look weird mounted on the rear of the bike.No offense to anyone.I just have different goals and I'll come back when there are better products available.I just can't see spending 600 to 800 bucks for a rear mount 4 stroke which eats away your tires and makes pulling a trailer or adding a cargo rack obsolete.And the 2 stroker vendors In here are like playing the lottery.Hoping you get a decent motor and not have to spend more than It's worth In time and money to keep It running.I wish everybody luck and hope you fare better than me.I'll just save up and buy a moped and maybe down the road get a morini for my bicycle.Thank you for your time motored bikes and members.Safe trails.
 
I abuse the heck out of my HT engines right out of the box with a 32:1 ratio (25-50% castor oil) and never had a problem with my engines.

If prepped correctly, the HT engine is fairly reliable. Every 20 or so builds I do get a bad engine like the Dax that currently won't start due to a major airleak in the lower end.

I currently had 3 HT rides. I would cross the desert in the middle of summmer with any of them but feel my single speed is the most reliable due to its simplicity. My shifter kit bikes had had some issues such as freewheel failing and repeated adjustments due to chain stretch but they are more fun to ride.
 
I have said this many times on this forum that " You get what you pay for !" I still believe it. Some buyers have done fairly well with the cheap Chinese kits & some have not. It almost seems to be like playing a lottery. I ride vintage old motorized bikes, friction drive , & do not CHEW up tires. BUT, there are drawbacks to it as there are any.
One word of caution for you. The cheap Chinese motorscooters/mopeds , many under $1000 , are not much different that the Chinese kits, as far as reliability, available parts, service, etc. You get what you pay for there, too. Good luck !!!
 
Well esteban,I figure I would check flea markets and ebay and try to land a moped.And just save up 600 bucks for a morini engine.I do have 1 china girl.But,At this point.I really don't wanna mess with It.I'll just have to work a few extra weeks and be patient.If not for having to go to work everyday and having time to kill.I would be satisfied working on china girls.But,I don't have time to work on something every 50 to 100 miles and keep my job.I am sure there are some china girls out there that run remarkable.I just not had any luck with them yet.Just have to save up and do a morini for my cruiser and a 4 stroke for my future build.I will save up for a honda In frame 4 stroke or ezm and get a morini on my cruiser for now.Maybe I'll luck out at the flea markets,ebay,or trading post.All In God's Time.Not my time.
 
If I decide to get another china girl.I will go for a grube and get a few rebuild kits for peace of mind.Just gotta take my time and think things through and be logical In the future.I still gonna get a morini first.Speed I do not care about.I need a reliable everyday ride for work.My second project this july will be a www.atomiczombie.com vigilante chopper with motor.I yet to decide on.
 
I have said this many times on this forum that " You get what you pay for !" I still believe it. Some buyers have done fairly well with the cheap Chinese kits & some have not. It almost seems to be like playing a lottery. I ride vintage old motorized bikes, friction drive , & do not CHEW up tires. BUT, there are drawbacks to it as there are any.
One word of caution for you. The cheap Chinese motorscooters/mopeds , many under $1000 , are not much different that the Chinese kits, as far as reliability, available parts, service, etc. You get what you pay for there, too. Good luck !!!

You sure have a lot of common sense and are a wise man.I like you buddy.:D
 
Thanks, nobull.

One thing to consider on getting a scooter. If you live near a college, when school lets out, the grads get rid of about everything. University of Florida is close by & scooters are everywhere there. Keeping an eye on " Craigslists, " & other sites may help you. Just get a good quality one.

Have you ever ridden a Honda Elite ? 80-100cc will get you to about 45mph & great gas mileage. If you want the " Cadillac," find an older Honda Helix, which were 250cc, & you could keep up with traffic. I knew someone who put nearly 100,000 miles on his !!!
 
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Having found the critical source of all my engine problems, i'm now fairly happy with my China Girl engine, and it is still running reliably (amazing how it is possible) on a partially damaged connecting rod bearing; so far travelling just on 3,000 kilometers.

It's infuriating that the smallest part was causing the biggest mechanical problem, yet i totally overlooked the problem until the problem could no longer be overlooked.

The new China Girl engines from the Nantong Jiali factory come with the crowded needle roller connecting rod bearing and 203 main bearings and are much more mechanically reliable.

Fabian
 
I agree with the QA issue. Even Grubee is a toss up as far as quality. Why cant someone come up with a better engine...based maybe on the Honda XR 75 or QA50/S65/S90/CT70 designs, minus transmission? I'd pay considerably more for a more reliable engine. or how about a bottom end, to drop one of the aforementioned models top end into?

We're part of the problem too, if we keep repairing their mistakes, they'll never make any changes to improve the HT design......

Will
 
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