Back wheel won't turn

bilboby

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Hello & apologies if this subject has been mentioned before,

Having managed to wreck my first chinese made rear drive friction engine and toddled with the idea of replacing with a Loncin 48cc mini chopper type i've now reverted back to the first MB project which got me into MB'ing.

I've taken off the rear friction engine and replaced with yet another chinese type 80cc which i had spare and fit's in between the V-frame. However although i had no problems before when using this setup i've now got the problem of 'the back wheel' not turning thus it's locked. The chain slack is about 3/4 and passes via it's idler however the wheel only turns when taking off the MB's chain. On checking the build i believe everything to be as it should thus i'm at a loss to the problem, i should also mention that the accelerator/clutch cable felt quite tight so i gave it slack but still with the wheel problem.

Any help on the cause of the wheel lock will be much appreciated and i again apologise if this topic has been mentioned elsewhere.

If i'm being honest i should point out that the V-frame type setup with a long chrome muffler and black painted alu gas tank look's far more attractive than the rear friction drive setup but that's only my opinion.

Cheers


NB: No doubt other's have pointed out before but if the like's of myself buy cheap chinese made engine kit's in the hope of saving big bucks then i suppose we warrant what we deserve. Unfortunately US made kit's and the vendors rarely (if at all) ship over to W Europe.
 
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Lets find out the cause first...Remove the chain and see if the rear tire will rotate. Knowing this will give us a good place to start. May I assume since the engine is mounted in the "V" it is in fact a China HT chain drive that the problem refers to?
 
Unfortunately i have no reference on type/model of chinese friction engine in use as BGF didn't give any details nor am i sure if the below photo's will be of much use in identifying the friction drive model?

Regards
 

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Ron, he said the wheel turns when the chain is off, but this is getting confusing.
Is it about a Chinese HT chain-drive setup or a friction drive as in the pics?

bilboby, let's keep it on-topic to avoid the confusion.

Is the rear wheel not turning due to poor clutch adjustment? (You are pulling it in, I assume.)

If it's adjusted OK, it could just be that the clutch plates are sticking due to sitting around for a while. Try pulling the clutch lever in and giving the bike a few good stiff rolls forward and backward a few inches with some weight on it to loosen things up.
 
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Good thinking again, Dave.
Just thinking, though. Bilboby says the wheel turns OK with the chain off, implying he's pulled the chain off to check. He should have noticed if the chain was bunched.
 
Ron, he said the wheel turns when the chain is off, but this is getting confusing.
Is it about a Chinese HT chain-drive setup or a friction drive as in the pics?

bilboby, let's keep it on-topic to avoid the confusion.

It's about the Chinese ht chain drive set up which having refitted onto the bike the rear wheel won't turn. Steve, i've taken onboard what you've suggested by pulling the clutch lever in and giving the bike a few stiff roll's forward etc but alas the back wheel still refuses to budge however as you've quite rightly pointed out from my original post, the wheel run free'ly with the main HT chain off. I'll post a pick of the setup later on today.


NB: Sorry chap's for any confusion
 
Double-check that the chain isn't bunching under the countershaft cover.
Next, pull the plug out and see if the engine turns when you roll the bike forward, (with the clutch lever out, (engaged), to check that nothing is seized in the engine).
If the engine turns over OK, you'll probably need to pull the clutch top plate off, at least, before the clutch will free up.
A pic might[/i\] help.
 
Good thinking again, Dave.
Just thinking, though. Bilboby says the wheel turns OK with the chain off, implying he's pulled the chain off to check. He should have noticed if the chain was bunched.


Will confirm that the chain was not bunched
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I should now mention that having read the thread (cheers srdavo) 4788 i tried the exercise of HT chain fitted with spark plug off and indeed found the back wheel does turn. However refit the plug and i'm back to square one.

Although so far the problem hasn't been resolved, cheers anyway everyone for your time and help.
 
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