Engine Trouble New Rider Bike Will Not Go Some Help Please!!

rallen2012

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As you can tell in the pic i have removed the throttle pin, to figuring maybe this is why i can't start my bike. i have been trying to start the bike for a week now. everything is together. what have i done wrong if anything. i do not know. the fuel is mixed at 16:1 fuel to oil. i have put synthetic 2 stroke oil in with the gas. so as i go out on the street the bike acts like it wants to start, but it just will not stay going. as a matter a fact i get no forward movement after releasing the clutch. i can hear the exhaust, but there is no go at all, it will just come to a stop and sometime a quick stop. does any see or know why this thing will not run. anybody any help would be appreciated. k thks
 

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#1 you need to SOLIDLY mount that fuel tank
#2 hook up your cdi/coil
#3 if don't understand it find somebody to help you that does

its not a throttle pin its a carb slide
these bikes are not toys theres enough stuff there to HURT/kill you
burns from gasoline are not painless
do it RIGHT or don't do it at all your family and the rest of us riders will be greatfull
 
ok carb slide. the brackets that came with the kit do not fit the frames tube ok. I have had to seal the pit cock with seal all since it was leaking but thats not a problem anymore. cause the treades did not fit the gas tank. i had the black box there wired to the kill switch. i have enough mech exp with cars a trucks that all i need is a few suggestions as to what you are saying here after all i have rebulit a iroc tranny and been though enough training, to not run a bike like the pics. i mean it not like i just got off the bike and took some pics. com on man. the two wires hanging from the engine are suppose to be for a head light, and the black box going to the spark plug have a blue and black wire both for the kill switch, it not related to why the bike will not go. the box was wired to the yellow button,(kill switch) but didn't matter the bike would still not go.
 
It sounds like you need to adjust your clutch.
When you squeeze in the clutch handle is there any resistance?
In the pic, your clutch cable looks way too loose and it looks like there's slack in it.
If the engine starts and runs but will not idle, turn the idle screw in(the screw in the left side of the carb.).
When you put the slide back in the carb, make sure the short slot goes to the left side, and the long slot (shown in pic #1) goes to the right side and lines up with a little pin that's cast into the inside of the carb.

You should spend some more time on the details and don't rush the build. Whenever you rush, you miss things, and the bike ends up looking like it was thrown together in a few hours and can be unsafe.
Seriously, you need to mount the gas tank to the frame better, and solidy (it can be done with a little inginuity),
You should run your wiring so that it's out of the way and secured to the frame.
Get rid of the stock push together wire connectors and solder all of your wire connections, and then cover them with heat shrink.

That speedo that you have on there won't last but a few days because the internals are all plastic. They will destroy themselves after awhile because they were not meant to go 30 mph.
I know because I had one of those speedos, and it blew apart after about 3 days of riding.

You need to get an in line fuel filter put on there for sure.

That stock chain tensioner probably won't last very long, and it may even end up in the spokes.(it's happened several times).

If you slow down and put some thought into what you're doing you could end up with a really nice looking and great running bike.
the devil is in the details...take your time.

Here's my 2 bikes.
I have about 4 days worth of work just putting the engine on, doing the wiring and making a few custom parts to replace a few kit supplied part for the chopper.
I have about 20 hours in the gas tank (body work and paint) and i have another couple of hours in the exhaust, and tuning the carb. a few misc. hours in making the headlight, the tail light, chopping the seat post and welding a smaller seat post inside of the original one to fit a standard seat on it.
look close...do you see a mount for the gas tank? it's hidden and it cost me about 50 cents to make it.
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close up of the paint on the tank.
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I have about 4 days worth of just putting the engine on and doing the wiring on my lowrider.
I have about 30 hours in the frame (stripping the old paint, repainting it and buffing it out). another couple of hours putting on the expansion chamber and making the custom baffle and exhaust. about an hour in making the custom chain tensioner. and then there's the misc. time i have in chopping the sissy bar(it has shocks on it), chopping both fenders, chopping the seat post, making the headlight and the tail light.
About 15 hours in the gas tank (the pearl white paint job, my friend did the pinstriping.)
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........ the two wires hanging from the engine are suppose to be for a head light, and the black box going to the spark plug have a blue and black wire both for the kill switch, it not related to why the bike will not go. the box was wired to the yellow button,(kill switch) but didn't matter the bike would still not go.

forget the headlight....forget the kill switch. (for now)

the black & blue wires coming from the engine plug into the black & blue wires coming from the black box. (CDI)
 
funny... my cdi box is wired to the wires coming off the motor...
blue to blue black to black motor runs
white wire not used
if you DON't connect to the wires coming off the motor how is the motor to supply the power to make the cdi work?
why not just disconnect the battery and alternator in your car and see if you can start it and if it will run.
READ THE MANUAL ... all the info is in there

http://www.grubeeinc.com/USA/images/110329/97.jpg
that is how it should be hooked up
 
Yep There Some Resistance To The Clutch, But Ill Tighten It Up Some Thks

there should be quite a bit of resistance when you pull in the clutch. when the clutch handle is in, you should not be able to move or wiggle the clutch lever on the side of the engine.
when the clutch handle is released, you should be able to wiggle the clutch arm on the side of the engine a little bit.
it just sounds like your clutch is slipping really bad.

Be prepared to do a lot of tinkering and tuning, unless you're happy with the way it runs right out of the box.
there's a ton of room for improvement as to how the engine can run.
when you ride one that has not been tuned right and then jump on one that has been tuned right, you'll get a real eye opener.
it takes time man, and i'm not knocking your abilities at all.
but a ton of the stuff that it takes to get one of these things running is mechanical common sense.
 
funny... my cdi box is wired to the wires coming off the motor...
blue to blue black to black motor runs
white wire not used
if you DON't connect to the wires coming off the motor how is the motor to supply the power to make the cdi work?
why not just disconnect the battery and alternator in your car and see if you can start it and if it will run.
READ THE MANUAL ... all the info is in there

http://www.grubeeinc.com/USA/images/110329/97.jpg
that is how it should be hooked up

exactly, the magneto powers the cdi, the cdi amplifies it and sends spark to the spark plug.
basic stuff there.
 
you have training in what?
you re-built an iroc camaro transmission but have you ever done any ignition wiring or motorcycle/ automotive electrical work?
An iroc camaro trans is simple stuff, nothing more than a 700r4 automatic.
i don't mean to sound like a d**k, but it's hard for people to help you when you come on here and act like you know everything.
"the two wires hanging from the engine are suppose to be for a head light, and the black box going to the spark plug have a blue and black wire both for the kill switch, it not related to why the bike will not go. the box was wired to the yellow button,(kill switch) but didn't matter the bike would still not go"

That's exactly wrong.
the 2 wires coming from the engine are coming from the magneto and ARE NOT for a headlight. The white wire is designated for a headlight, but trust me it will not work...don't even bother hooking anything to the white wire.
hook the black wire from the engine to the black wire on the cdi box. Hook the blue wire from the engine to the blue wire on the cdi box and tie the kill switch wire (yellow) into the blue wires. cap off the end of the white wire and forget about it.
 
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