Engine Trouble engine starts but bike doesnt take off

i realize that alot of people have been helping me
and its alot of help, work and patients
im not ungrateful and i appresiate it
and im soo close to tackling this problem
i need this to get to work otherwise i run it with out the motor powered on
which isnt fun
besides some people may have a similar problem and this thread can help them
im learning so much and im not gonna give up
im far tooo close
 
The reason why gas is leaking is because you set the float level too low. the bowl is filling up with fuel and the tangs on the float can't fully close the needle and seat.
The carb is flooding over, which is a bad thing.
I kind of think that you don't have the carb assembled right or you have something way out of adjustment.
A fuel line and filter usually does not fill completely up with gas, there usually is a small air pocket in there, and that's 100% fine.
I think you just need to learn how to adjust everything, and you need to know how everything gets put back together the correct way.
You should not be having this many problems unless you totally messed the carb up or installed it wrong (i have seen people install carbs sideways and they wonder why they don't work right).
The bad thing about all of this is that incorrect installation / assembly. leads the builder to think that these kits are garbage. Then they get all mad and trash every company that makes these engines. Sometimes it all boils down to how the engine was installed on the bike, how everything was tuned and tweaked, and how much mechanical knowledge the builder has.
If you slap one no a bike and get it running right away, you'll think it's great.
If you put one on a bike and it takes you awhile to get it running due to incorrect wiring, faulty connections, carb assembled wrong, etc, you'll think it's a pile of junk.
If you ever ride a m.b. that has been built correctly and properly tuned, you'd be blown away at how well they ride and how well the engines actually run.
 
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you should change your name to motophysic

you were band on about the carb being sideways
holy \&%^ how could i be so foolish
its because it barely fit the other way
and a month ago i didnt think it would matter
but here i stand corrected
duh!
any ways it runs now
but it doesnt idle still
it just takes off!
im not sure what to do
i have tried different settings on the float
and i have tinkered with the idle screw and the throttle
and i get the same results
speed and lots of it
but no slowing down or idling
i think its still to lean
just not sure how to correct it!
and man its hot out side:cry:
thanks again
chris
 
its peeing rain here and im only hot n sweaty cus of my super sexy fireplace :)

ha ha ha! sideways carbs!...ok, thats that bit fixed. oops he says.

so now, it doesnt idle! back to the beginning!

pull the slide out. the slot down the side, where the cable goes, should be on the side AWAY from the idle screw. theres a tiny lil brass pin down in the slide hole that keeps it lined up.

OR the slide has a slight angle (cutaway) at the bottom. this should point away from the engine, or towards the airfilter. that, surprisingly, is part of the mix control. dont try filing it unless you know whats what though!

http://www.iwt.com.au/mikunicarb.htm

thats a pretty good page there for the basics ;)

though the HT carb is even more basic...all it has is a slide and a needle&jet. the only way to change the main mix is by drilling/replacing the jet. and the needle position effects mid throttle. there is no pilot/idle circuit...besides that cutaway in the slide...

and checking if its too lean is simple. remove spark plug. if its white or grey, its too lean.
 
thanks for the tip
im gonna carefully look over the link
it looks great!
thanks again
ill let you know of any progress
man o man my bike gets hot
ouch
i only ride it for a few blocks after tinkering!
but i got a nice burn
any ways thanks again
cheers
 
of corse your engine is going to get hot.
It's air cooled and they run hotter than a liquid cooled engine.
you need to be moving to have air flowing over the fins to cool it off.
sittting still with it idling for a long time is a bad idea.
 
hey
what up!
i still cant idle so thats not the issue with the over heating
but i imagine thats a problem
when you idle with your bike ever does it idle with out holding the break?
i heat up soo much very quickly and it gets sooo hot that i starts almost melting the boot on the spark plug
i looked at a good tutorial about carburators and im gonna to adjust the needle setting
thanks
chris
cheers
 
hey
what up!
i still cant idle so thats not the issue with the over heating
but i imagine thats a problem
when you idle with your bike ever does it idle with out holding the break?
i heat up soo much very quickly and it gets sooo hot that i starts almost melting the boot on the spark plug
i looked at a good tutorial about carburators and im gonna to adjust the needle setting
thanks
chris
cheers

heck yeah mine can idle without holding the brake (but i don't have a centrifugal clutch on my bike and i'm not sure if yours does or not).
Man if your engine is getting that hot, there's definitly a problem. I'll bet that it's running way too lean and that can burn up the piston.
you do put oil in the gas right?
running a 2 stroke on straight gas will make it run extremely hot and it will kill the motor in no time.
 
thanks alot man
it was very lean so i adjusted the needle settings
and it doesnt get as hot
it was kinda smoking from the muffler alot
i took it for a spin and it runs alot better
and doesnt seem as hot
and no more smoke
i just need to drill a small hole in the cap to fix the gas issue
every once in a while
i have to unscrew the cap
or the bike will stop
and even my kill switch works!
when you squeeze the clutch it makes a weird sound and stars mis behaving
is that normal?
thanks again
 
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