What is the deal with these HT engines being from who knows where?

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As many of you probably know, when you buy just about anything these days, even from overseas, you can most always trace your product back to the manufacturer, usually fairly easily and you can do so to get manuals and support, etc.

What is the deal with these HT engines? Are they so afraid of lawsuits or something that they think they need to make these some kind of mystery engines?

Can anyone explain this mystery product nonsense to a motorbike newb please?
 
There have been a bunch of mfgs for these kits.
I don't think it has to do with lawsuits, when stuff changes frequently the source becomes blurred.
 
Wish I could answer that one? Uno, it almost makes anyone believe that the word consistency really isn't taken very seriously??????????????? Just like the parting of your hair, never same way twice??????????????
 
huh? its next to impossible to trace anything back to where it was made! i can think of more things that cant be tracked than things that can...


anyways... other than slight differences in minor details, theyre all the same anyway... so theres more than one company making various parts... i wouldnt worry.

manual? what do you need a manual for? engine dead? buy new one. easy. its a two poke, simplicity itself. if you want to keep it simple, anyway.
 
getting to be a nightmare trying to swap parts between 2 motors - no marking to give even a hint - buying replacement parts online is almost impossible these days too : (

repair is slowly evolving into an engine swap situation

just check these threads here for all those that got wrong parts like; pistons, cylinders, conn rods, anything that sits on a woodruff key
 
getting to be a nightmare trying to swap parts between 2 motors - no marking to give even a hint - buying replacement parts online is almost impossible these days too : (


thisd is why you should buy from the same vendor each time. they usually stick to one supplier. meaning they usually get the same designs each time.

my only 66 was a perfect example. cheap from china. blew up. ordered cylinder/piston from local dealer. different skirt/deck height on piston. different length studs, different length cylinder. but that cylinder suits all 66's sold by this local dealer...
 
huh? its next to impossible to trace anything back to where it was made! i can think of more things that cant be tracked than things that can...


anyways... other than slight differences in minor details, theyre all the same anyway... so theres more than one company making various parts... i wouldnt worry.

manual? what do you need a manual for? engine dead? buy new one. easy. its a two poke, simplicity itself. if you want to keep it simple, anyway.

Wow, defensive much? I think we found one of these manufacturers or something.

1. Name three things that can't be tracked to their manufacturer that are legal products. You can't, unless there's some weird stuff going on with auto parts I was unaware of. You can track a freaking soap dish back to the plant it was made at, even in China.
2. Obviously, they're not all the same. Have you read any of this forum? It's pretty interesting.
3. You're right, not that I've gotten to know it, it's dead simple. Now if only it were clearly defined, we might all be more enlightened.
 
thisd is why you should buy from the same vendor each time. they usually stick to one supplier. meaning they usually get the same designs each time.

my only 66 was a perfect example. cheap from china. blew up. ordered cylinder/piston from local dealer. different skirt/deck height on piston. different length studs, different length cylinder. but that cylinder suits all 66's sold by this local dealer...

Okay so the problem seems to lie in the fact that "vendors" are importing these usually. Worse, it sounds like these "vendors" are able to designate the "specifications". WTF?

When you get them on ebay, WTF? So, they're all the same but they're not the same. Those vendors should be trusted yet they apparently import crap and dish it out constantly... lovely.

It's a damn good thing I know my way around an engine or you guys (and this site) would be pretty dang worthless so far. I got it running finally, the only thanks to this site was to get a better spark plug so far. Thanks for that though. And, I made my own wire since the cheap one just fell off, like you guys said it would.
 
It's a damn good thing I know my way around an engine or you guys (and this site) would be pretty dang worthless so far. I got it running finally, the only thanks to this site was to get a better spark plug so far. Thanks for that though. And, I made my own wire since the cheap one just fell off, like you guys said it would.

:) welcome and compliments gracefully accepted :)

if you know your way around you shouldnt need a manual in the first place. whats there to know?

the "vendors" have their own suppliers. you try starting up a business importing these motors. try getting the right contacts for trading with, that can speak english, that you can trust. or learn mandarin and cantonese and dont let on...

the "bad" motors usually come from china directly. couldnt care less except to get rid of them. checking "location" in ebay can help. checking ratings. all that gaf.

so, stuff i cant find...

a pack of screws, packaging is rendered useless. i cant trace it.

this soap dish. its three years old, and the only marking is "made in taiwa..".

good luck tracing it.

a simple circuit board that has no markings other than the component placement and 001Cx#34 on it. and some of the chips have had their labels removed on purpose.

in fact, a lot of generic semiconductors have no markings other than what they are. maybe a batch code but thats meaningless unless you know where they came from originally...

the left hand front indicator of a '99 subaru forester can be tracked, easily.
 
:) welcome and compliments gracefully accepted :)

if you know your way around you shouldnt need a manual in the first place. whats there to know?

the "vendors" have their own suppliers. you try starting up a business importing these motors. try getting the right contacts for trading with, that can speak english, that you can trust. or learn mandarin and cantonese and dont let on...

the "bad" motors usually come from china directly. couldnt care less except to get rid of them. checking "location" in ebay can help. checking ratings. all that gaf.

so, stuff i cant find...

a pack of screws, packaging is rendered useless. i cant trace it.

this soap dish. its three years old, and the only marking is "made in taiwa..".

good luck tracing it.

a simple circuit board that has no markings other than the component placement and 001Cx#34 on it. and some of the chips have had their labels removed on purpose.

in fact, a lot of generic semiconductors have no markings other than what they are. maybe a batch code but thats meaningless unless you know where they came from originally...

the left hand front indicator of a '99 subaru forester can be tracked, easily.

Screws don't need to be traced, hardly compares to an engine.
circuit boards are generally known to come from the various manufacturers and can be easily traced, that was just just dumb posturing dude. My chinese mobo has far better support than these engines.

yes maybe a lot of random tiny generic parts are just random. yes. so... are you still wondering why you sound like an idiot or should I go on?
 
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