Need Auto Clutch Help

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remember Quenton is trying to sell his clutch when you make your decision....dont base everything on his bad mouthing newer whizzer parts......for alot less then he's gonna probably charge you you could make your clutch nearly bulletproof. Thats marlarkey what he's blabbing about rockwell hardness too.
He has no way of knowing whether joe tested anything...he's just shooting off his mouth.
If quenton thinks he has a "superclutch" he should call ford and chevy and get rich overnite. All clutches these days are copies of a few tried and proven designs. That he could do with help.
Why people would send a 175dollar part out for repairs costing nearly as much on someones jibberish is beyond me.
whizzer dumped him for a reason people here ignore.....mainly because there are some who just dont know bikes enough .
Quenton..put your pics up they asked for....lets see what youre blabbing about always. Personally I think youre full of it but who knows, you may have a good copy. 3rd Mils are about the best,ignore that when copying ...bad idea.
I once knew a fella that knew so much about racing chassis' no one would believe he could be had.......wasnt hard beating people of that mindset...the more they listened to him the more we won.
People here remind me of that...they dont know but figure he must or he wouldnt be here . Its that tunnel vision he uses against you.

got all that Quenton?
 
Hope to have a new clutch in production within the next 30 days. The proto-type is in the fabrication shop in CA awaiting any upgrades. We already tested the unit and it works 100% and won't let you down. Please understand all the automatic clutches made prior to 2009 can be upgraded to the hardened bearing sleeve and will work fine. Just can't do anything with the latest units from Taiwan because he still is using a SOFT bearing surface and the bearings eat the bearing surface [what happens when you run needle bearings on a soft surface], and the sleeve can't be replaced on his latest unit.

Just keep in touch and hopefully we will have them available soon.

Have fun,
 
remember Quenton is trying to sell his clutch when you make your decision....dont base everything on his bad mouthing newer whizzer parts......for alot less then he's gonna probably charge you you could make your clutch nearly bulletproof. Thats marlarkey what he's blabbing about rockwell hardness too.
He has no way of knowing whether joe tested anything...he's just shooting off his mouth.
If quenton thinks he has a "superclutch" he should call ford and chevy and get rich overnite. All clutches these days are copies of a few tried and proven designs. That he could do with help.
Why people would send a 175dollar part out for repairs costing nearly as much on someones jibberish is beyond me.
whizzer dumped him for a reason people here ignore.....mainly because there are some who just dont know bikes enough .
Quenton..put your pics up they asked for....lets see what youre blabbing about always. Personally I think youre full of it but who knows, you may have a good copy. 3rd Mils are about the best,ignore that when copying ...bad idea.
I once knew a fella that knew so much about racing chassis' no one would believe he could be had.......wasnt hard beating people of that mindset...the more they listened to him the more we won.
People here remind me of that...they dont know but figure he must or he wouldnt be here . Its that tunnel vision he uses against you.

got all that Quenton?

Well Racie, you must have been having a bad day and decided it would be fun to troll your way over and slander Quenton to brighten things up. There is definitely someone here that doesn't know much, and it certainly isn't Quenton.

for alot less then he's gonna probably charge you you could make your clutch nearly bulletproof.
And just how much is Quenton "gonna probably charge" to repair a clutch? And how do you recommend someone make their clutch "nearly bulletproof" for "a lot less than Quenton's gonna charge"?

Quenton charges about $100 exchange (if you've got a good clutch hub) to install an inner race on the clutch hub that will make the Whizzer clutch very durable. The race alone costs ~ $30-40, then bring it to a machine shop and see how much it will cost to have it cut to length and installed on the hub. Really eager to hear how to make your version of the "nearly bulletproof" clutch for a lot less than Quenton charges.

Why people would send a 175dollar part out for repairs costing nearly as much on someones jibberish is beyond me.
Because Quenton has a cost effective solution for a clutch that doesn't work

Thats marlarkey what he's blabbing about rockwell hardness too.
No, that's not malarkey, that's absolute fact. Bearing races typically have Rockwell C hardness of ~ 60, and that is what is required for bearings to survive. I've never seen a Whizzer clutch that had a hard inner race, although there may have been a few made correctly sometime along the way. This is what a soft inner race on a Whizzer clutch can look like after a few 100 miles.

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In contrast this is what a Rockwell C 60 hardness inner race looks like after thousands of miles on a Whizzer.


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He has no way of knowing whether joe tested anything...he's just shooting off his mouth.

We're the testers, as Joe hardly ever tests anything. I bought one of the new Whizzer clutches and can verify most of what Quenton said. No Whizzer could ever get the clutch to engage with the springs it was sent with, and yes you do have to destroy the seal to disassemble the clutch.


If quenton thinks he has a "superclutch" he should call ford and chevy and get rich overnite. All clutches these days are copies of a few tried and proven designs. That he could do with help.

Quenton said he is using a Max -Torque clutch - how much clearer can it be said?

whizzer dumped him for a reason people here ignore.....mainly because there are some who just dont know bikes enough
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You have absolutely no idea why Whizzer quit supplying product to Quenton, and for you to suggest it has anything to do with competence of the subject matter illustrates how little knowledge you have of this subject matter. Your comment is simply mean spirited and pointless.

Got all that Racie?
 
I think you got your moneys worth. Thousands of miles?
On the average, how many whizzers have thousands of miles?
Here, some get some repairs and then are sold.
Maybe Racie has had a chat with Quenton, do you know? maybe Racie has sent him something and it didn't get fix.


Ray
 
I think you got your moneys worth. Thousands of miles?
On the average, how many whizzers have thousands of miles?
Here, some get some repairs and then are sold.
Maybe Racie has had a chat with Quenton, do you know? maybe Racie has sent him something and it didn't get fix.


Ray

Right now I have a couple of Joe's clutches. As I have stated one of my original clutches has failed due to the way it is held together. I am going to give Joe's clutch a try and see how it works. If Quenton comes up with a better clutch at a reasonable price I am game. I will keep in touch and keep an eye out.

I appreciate all the feed back, and I am grateful that there are others out there that enjoy the Whizzer as much as I do.
 
Sounds good. I do have 2 of Joe's clutches. I have ran it for about 1 mile. Seemed to work fine. I am always on the look out for something better. I will keep checking this post to see when you are going to start selling these new clutches.

Do you know about any Whizzer events, and when and where they are? I would like to go to one and meet other people that are into these bikes. I have had mine for about 6 years now and have never met any one who enjoys tinkering and riding these bikes.

Thanks for the info.
 
Have you used Joe's clutch yet? If so can you give me some feed back on your experience with his clutch?
What would your recommendation be?
 
funny how one of these goofballs always comes on here to fight Quentons battles after he spews a bunch of negative comments about something he's making money off from know nothings. That would be you WZ. youre trolling for him.

that said,
Im sure quenton and a few more of you know plenty about whizzers.. thats cool and if you can provide info thats useful to someone lost...cooler yet. I think you misunderstand my stand here. Quenton makes money off selling whizzer parts and repairs . Alot of these bikes are made in another country by someone he doesnt like...so what. Thing is he bad mouths the product he's pushing..only thing is he wants it to travel through his fingers first. You wanna believe whizzers were delivered with bad clutches only he can fix....be that guy.
These are Bicycles with briggs and stratton technology installed or there about. Nothing special really...That not everyone understands either..okay. Strong negative statements to someone about their new purchase surely cant be taken as a helpful thing. Whats he promoting anyway? That someone just wasted their money and should send him more?
and yes I do know why he's been booted....including the other forum. wanna know why WZ? do a search.
 
Hi racie35,

Guess you need to do more research as Debbie at Whizzer is a good friend, and my dealership is in good standing. She got upset with me several years ago over my comment about she should have continued the NE5 when she brought out the new models.

Not sure why you don't have anything important to do, other that trash people who are trying to help others. The phrase "get a life" come to mind.

If anyone thinks I am making money helping others, you might want to do some research. Go to your nearest machine shop and see how much they will charge to machine the hub [remove soft sleeve]on the clutch and install the hardened bearing sleeve. See if,they will do the work for $100.00 total including the sleeve. Invest your own money in buying parts in large quantities and investing over 50 hours of labor a week and make a working clutch. I will await your answer!

Maybe you could talk the machine shop into spending thousands of dollars buying bearings and sleeves to produce the new clutch [maybe not].

Here is the challenge! Lets see you offer a Whizzer clutch solution instead of "trashing" others efforts to help solve a serious problem.

Go ahead invest your money, work 7 days a week for nothing, and then I would consider your comments as valid.

Just remember one thing, ALL my Whizzer work 100%, and I don't have to help others.

Good news is: you can select anyone you want to help fix your Whizzer issues, just not me. Just think, when Whizzer owners have an American made clutch that works, you won't.


Have fun,
 
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