Honda GXH50 Warranty Scam

Here's my current motor bike if you want to check it out. It is real nice and a lot of fun to ride!
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The problem with these warranties is they'll slip things into the small print which can void them. So I can see them putting something in there about messing with the throttle could void the warranty. Like what has been said by others one must read a warranty through very thoroughly. Then be mindful of what you're saying to representatives. The rep's job is to get the company out of paying to fix the product. Then sell you a replacement at a reduced price so you feel as if you were treated fairly. There's many companies like this.
 
Here's my current motor bike if you want to check it out. It is real nice and a lot of fun to ride!
Looks like a fun ride.
You're better off with the Tanaka, if I remember only Robin/Subaru approves their engines for use with MAB's.4-strokes like to be rode mid range, high revs for a long time,... well you found out.Remember 2 strokes need to be varied throttle-wise as well, too long WOT, not enough lube.From the palm tree and the big a.s.s.ed AC I'd say you were in or near Gilbert/Chandler AZ.
 
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like a dealer would not omit a few small details in a warranty to sell a $400 engine...
 
Another footnote I failed to mention is that I only rode it about 45 minutes or less in the morning and 45 minutes or less in the evening 4 days a week (for work) and a little in between. All inner city stop and go with a lot of traffic lights. I thought I should mention that so it's not assummed I'm running wide open for hours on end or anything.

Another FYI... the part inside this engine they call a governor doesn't actually do anything at all to govern the engine or disengage it from over reving. It's a mock part. The only governing being done on this engine is a spring attached to the static throttle assembly which prevents the carburetor from fully opening the throttle. Which also means that as that spring gets older, the amount that it opens will continuely decrease. So the whole marketing scam "7000 RPM" etc... is just that. A SCAM.

And no grinningremlin I'm not in AZ. Didn't you notice Tampa in my post? It's beautiful sunny Florida!
Which is also why I have that plastic piece on the top of my air filter. To keep the rain out! LOL
 
Honda 50s governor is used for load not speed. You set the idle speed by moving the idle lever to say 3500 rpm, when load on the engine increases it compensates with increase in speed and visaversa......I've never seen a Honda 50 take a dump like your description unless it was abused, it's possible to get a bad one but I have my doubts. I used to see Honda 50s come in on cement mixers and looked like they were 50 years old and they still started on 1st or 2nd pull and run great. Landscaping apps too and you know how employees treat equipment they don't have to worry about paying for. Lucky if the oil gets changed 1 time a season and they still run after years of use. I don't think we're getting the whole story here.
 
look you should have reinstalled all the stock parts and said it broke while you were tilling your garden . theywould have had nothing to complain about. as soon as you said motorized bike you gave them a reason to deny you the warrenty

and the honda gx 50 should be able to turn 7,000 rpms all day no problem .
 
I'm not saying the OP necessarily did anything wrong to the engine. Manufactures put things into the small print for the sole purpose of voiding a warranty. Honda isn't the only one who does this. Often in these warranties they jump you around in it telling you to refer back to certain sections or paragraphs. This is done to confuse people but its legal. Like I said with many companies the representative has been trained to find reasons within the warranty to void it. Then try to sell you a replacement.
 
Honda 50s governor is used for load not speed. You set the idle speed by moving the idle lever to say 3500 rpm, when load on the engine increases it compensates with increase in speed and visaversa......I've never seen a Honda 50 take a dump like your description unless it was abused, it's possible to get a bad one but I have my doubts. I used to see Honda 50s come in on cement mixers and looked like they were 50 years old and they still started on 1st or 2nd pull and run great. Landscaping apps too and you know how employees treat equipment they don't have to worry about paying for. Lucky if the oil gets changed 1 time a season and they still run after years of use. I don't think we're getting the whole story here.




im with this one all the way.... ive seen em on concrete mixers with no air filters, get chucked in the back of the truck alongside five ton of pump pipe, driven from state to state, and half the time some idiot thinks that if the truck has a tank on the back, it must be good for the lil honda... ahem. diesel is the one thing they dislike.

to say a honda died in less than a few hours use, twice... you need to do some re-engineering.


get over the scam, get over the feeling of righteousness.

motorised bicycle is NOT the intended application, and even if you have a trade card, and have been a licensed mechanic for 35 years, by the book, you are "less" qualified to "alter" the engine in any way whatsoever, than the pimple faced 15 yr old highschool dropout thats just started his apprenticeship at the dealer... its not what you know, but WHO. remember that.

yup. you should have used your head and made the scam a bit more palatable. they can just as easily turn around and sue you for slander with this thread...
 
im with this one all the way.... ive seen em on concrete mixers with no air filters, get chucked in the back of the truck alongside five ton of pump pipe, driven from state to state, and half the time some idiot thinks that if the truck has a tank on the back, it must be good for the lil honda... ahem. diesel is the one thing they dislike.

to say a honda died in less than a few hours use, twice... you need to do some re-engineering.


get over the scam, get over the feeling of righteousness.

motorised bicycle is NOT the intended application, and even if you have a trade card, and have been a licensed mechanic for 35 years, by the book, you are "less" qualified to "alter" the engine in any way whatsoever, than the pimple faced 15 yr old highschool dropout thats just started his apprenticeship at the dealer... its not what you know, but WHO. remember that.

yup. you should have used your head and made the scam a bit more palatable. they can just as easily turn around and sue you for slander with this thread...

I've proven that Honda markets/specs their GXH50 for hight RPM's and I've showed my first Honda's authorized service company has the lowest custom rating I've ever seen for a company online. (2.2 stars)
https://www.google.com/search?q=m&m...ls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&spell=1&lrd=lrd

I have absolutely, positively no reason whatsoever to abuse an engine that is my main source of transportation and had supposedly purchased the top of line with Honda. It is however, painfully obvious, that I'm among the few that use their MB for more than recreation use and know first hand what it takes to make it as reliable as possible.

Yes, I'm pretty sure I could win a case against Honda in small claims court for under $300. But the facts remain: they have done whatever they could to make their sale for the sole purpose of doing whatever it takes... lie, cheat, scam etc... to NOT stand by it.

I strongly recommend anyone in the market for a commuting motorized bicycle engine, to steer clear of Honda and China and Grubee parts. I will keep you posted on how my Tanaka PF-4000 holds up. Since it's marketed and sold for MB's and scooters, I'm confident they are built to last.

Don't listen to these guys who build MB's for the weekend rider who put low miles on their bikes, who are worried about any bad publicity on the engines they use for their builds. I'm giving you real-world experience for your benefit. And it has cost me plenty of $$$ to learn these lessons for you and me.

-John
 
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