dual spark plug head

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Has anyone used a "fred head" or similar dual sparkplug racing head? did the extra plug give a noticable increase in power/ speed? also are both spark plugs powered by a single CDI?
 
I don't see how 2 plugs can help. How much spark dose petrol need to blow up. If I had 2 stock plugs should work as one.and won't there be a power drop.split between 2.ensted of one strong one
 
If you have a good head two plugs are not needed. I dual plug early Harley heads do to the type of chamber so you get good ignition from one side of the head to the other as you cannot put one in the center. On the later Harley s have a much better head and do not need dual plugs. I have seen many dyno test and spark plugs have nothing to do with performance unless they are cheap after market.
 
I don't see how 2 plugs can help. How much spark dose petrol need to blow up. If I had 2 stock plugs should work as one.and won't there be a power drop.split between 2.ensted of one strong one
If you were using a stock CDI I doubt that you would be able to get enough voltage to make both of them spark at all. However I'm using a step up CDI with a much better coil. There is no real difference in top end performance but it seems to help with torque fairly well on the low end.
 
If you have a good head two plugs are not needed. I dual plug early Harley heads do to the type of chamber so you get good ignition from one side of the head to the other as you cannot put one in the center. On the later Harley s have a much better head and do not need dual plugs. I have seen many dyno test and spark plugs have nothing to do with performance unless they are cheap after market.
I did mine partly for the looks and because you are right, it is a Much better head. The pinch/ squish zone around the head and the cylinder head is almost as large as the rest of the space around it. Mine is a medium compression head and it really opens up the chamber for a better, much more even burn during combustion. More fuel burns faster= more power. Like I said in an earlier post, there doesn't seem to be any difference in top end performance at all but on the bottom end it does help out.
 
I did mine partly for the looks and because you are right, it is a Much better head. The pinch/ squish zone around the head and the cylinder head is almost as large as the rest of the space around it. Mine is a medium compression head and it really opens up the chamber for a better, much more even burn during combustion. More fuel burns faster= more power. Like I said in an earlier post, there doesn't seem to be any difference in top end performance at all but on the bottom end it does help out.

What CC head are you using or do you know? I have a 6cc head I am going to run on my second build but only on plug.
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Jeff
 
no matter how many plugs you stick in there, you will still only get ONE spark.. whichever gap is the smallest will be the first to breakdown and conduct. until all gaps are even at which point it is just pure randomness which one will spark.

unless you run separate cdi or have both ends of the coil exposed, so the current has to flow from earth, across one gap, through the coil, then across another gap, back to earth.

the stock standard CDI will not allow this.

an aftermarket CDI with separate coil should, if it has a separate earth wire but probably wont, unless its off one of these new wizz bang car engines that use one coil per two cylinders.

you have also doubled the voltage requirements, so the coil needs heavier insulation, the magneto has to supply extra power that it cant produce...

all in all, rather pointless.

but, if you have a strangely shaped combustion chamber, or really big pistons... then dual sparks do make a difference. the biggest example being aircraft that standardly have two plugs per cylinder, as well as two separate magneto/ignition systems. if one plug fouls up, or a magneto fails...the other one still produces spark. you dont have to try gliding and landing with no engine.

pre-flight check is to start on both magnetos, then switch one off...the engine RPM drops to almost half! and kicks straight back up when both are turned on again.

why? because they cylinders are usually huge... having two flame fronts means the air/fuel charge burns faster, faster burn means faster pressure rise, faster pressure rise is more force on the piston.

another method is to simply use high frequency sparks, multiple sparks on one plug... but the whole concept is rather pointless on tiny little 50mm or less cylinders. and really does require a special coil and circuitry.
 
Fred made a good cylinder head by chance, he's a machinist not a tuner. some of his designs don't do anything special. dual spark being one, copper squish band being another
 
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