Registering the motorized bike

darkfighter

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I made the standard 50cc HT kit on a walmart bike, and everything works fine and dandy. I added headlights, speedometer, taillights, and going to add a mirror. Since I am in NJ, if I were to get it street legal, I would need to pass DOT requirements and standards. However, I don't have a VIN for this bike since I built it myself. I figured I could take the serial number of the bike and abide by the formula of 17 digits to create a VIN, and the VIN checkers all now detect a 2016 model other make moped.

However, I am very confused about how I would take upon this as I am only 15, and considering I would need insurance for it, which will require me to submit the forms to get it registered, would this require me to thoughtfully form a VIN to avoid having problems getting insurance for it?

The registering form also requires pictures of the mopeds EPA regulations and noise labels, as well as NHTSA labels certifying it for on-road usage, which I believe the Chinese kits do not come with.

Currently I am thinking of handing the form in without the special EPA regulations and labels, but I want just to make sure as how this would work before handing in the form. Perhaps anyone on this forum has gone through a similar process?
 
Have any friends in PA? I know that you can get it registered rather easily in PA if you know the tricks. Not sure about the ability to register an already registered vehicle in PA, but sometimes there are simple statutes that make it easier to get it done in your own state if you get the majority of the work done elsewhere.

Are mopeds in NJ required to be inspected? If so can they be inspected elsewhere and the inspection is transfered? In PA, no inspection is needed, you can do that if wanted, but it's not needed to get it insured and registered and that can get you a plate. Only trick is getting a title, but that's really simple, especially since Vin checkers now support off brand custom built mopeds :)

Let me know if you need special help in this, I can't help you on the NJ side of things, but if you do the research on the way it works cross state (like if you bought a moped in new York or PA, and brought it home with you) and see it'd be a good way to get it registered, then let me know, either I can provide the help you need to make it work or can provide the information you'll need to get it to work.
 
OK here's something on that nhtsa label, the people in this thread are also from Jersey, look at it. http://www.sportbikes.net/forums/new-jersey/317689-nhtsa-label.html#/topics/317689?_k=f6pi09

Epa labels and noise labels can be made up and stuck to the bike, the nhtsa labels and epa labels are printed up by the MANUFACTURER which is why they don't all look the same, but they have their engineers and testers check to see if the vehicle meets regulations, then slaps a sticker on it.

Now the problem arises when the manufacturer sells thousands of these and sticks stickers all over them and then we find out that they aren't to spec, and that makes recalls and lawsuits happen.

Your backyard moped is up to you to make epa compliant, if you don't you can still stick a sticker on it and say there you go, now if you take it to an inspection station you'll fail on the spot, but since it's not required in jersey to get inspected you don't even have to second think it.

Look up some examples of those labels, get creative with it and make a set up and continue down the road to legality.

(it's almost like dot certified helmets, the manufacturer puts an 8 pound bowling ball in the helmet, then drops it from 10 or 15 feet and if it doesn't break the helmet it passes, not much of a test, and could sometimes pass with shear luck, but it's enough to make the helmet safe for everyone)
 
Thanks a lot so far, and your advice gave me some hope I can someday get it street legal. I found this form lurking around: http://www.nj.gov/mvc/pdf/Vehicles/Appl-BA-2-1105.pdf

I figure that if I put the bikes serial number plus a couple 0's in the VIN slot and register as a 49cc, I should be good to go. You seem to know a lot more about this process. Would this be the right thing to do?
 
Sure, but there's an odd rule about 0s, like it can't be a certain digit in the Vin, look it up, maybe get a little more creative than a bunch of zeros, and check the rules on off brand mopeds and the Vin numbers.

The hardest part is a title, but you can aquire a manufacturer's certificate of origin, that you can customize to your home built bike and vin
 
About the certificate of origin, if I just give them the receipt for the bike and then the 13 digit serial number, I should be able to get a plate and VIN, and then insurance? The
insurance company will insure anything that has a plate on it.
 
Can't register without a title, and can't get a title without a certificate of origin...

...or you can take it to the dmv to get it inspected and fill out a bunch of forms and then have it titled as a custom built motorcycle or moped, it will be a lot harder and more expensive to pull off the second way. Also it will probably get a single glance and be failed due to it being a bicycle and a Chinese motor with no epa ratings or any other fancy things they want to see.

I'm telling you it's not a walk in the park to get this done, otherwise everyone and their brother would do it, at least in PA, and Jersey as far as I can tell, it's no walk..

If I did it the hard way then somebody let me know, I cringe when people ask me how to get a plate and get legal...
 
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