End of the line for internal combustion engine and electric motorised bicycles in Australia

[Frankenstein]

That's an interesting idea right there actually, how many ears of corn must you be transporting before it's considered a farm vehicle. I suppose one is enough by the law of possession.

In Chicago or some other irrelevant city it's illegal to have a bat in your vehicle.

Unless you also have a baseball mitt.

Loophole let's you carry a bat around to bust people's heads in legally (carrying the bat not the head busting) if you need to.

 

[FurryOnTheInside]

In Chicago or some other irrelevant city it's illegal to have a bat in your vehicle.

Unless you also have a baseball mitt.

Loophole let's you carry a bat around to bust people's heads in legally (carrying the bat not the head busting) if you need to.

Similar here. You can keep a rounders bat beside the bed in case of cat burglars, but if you hit them with it they can prosecute you. . .
unless you also have a rounders ball.

But this is probably getting off topic.


We have similar laws to Oz, here in UK; but I've seen two motored bikes ever and both were going slower than I can run, rider staring down between his legs and looking puzzled at the spluttering engine.
It hasn't put me off building, but I'll commit properly to the 2-stroke ICE as late as possible in the build.
Anyway I'll be keeping to the off road cycle paths as much as possible, not going back and forth, back and forth on the same stretch, using every stealth mod known, and most importantly: removing the jackshaft chain if and when I do have to go on a public highway through a town.. Because it is only a motorcycle when the engine is connected to and powering the wheel.

I don't think it's the end of the line for motorised bicycles, just the end of the open road.

 

[butre]

I wish to make it clear to you that this new legislation was brought to my attention by a Victorian Highway Patrol Officer who clearly stated that this legislation encompasses not only monkey bikes, but all motorised bicycles that fall outside of the legislation for the 200 watt ruling.
The 250 watt ruling is for pedelec bikes.
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Those arguing against this legislation are fools; to think that you can argue against a Victorian Highway patrol officer with 13 years of experience in the Victorian police force, who may i add, is trained to be competent in all aspects of traffic and motor vehicle legislation.

It's the end of the End of the line for internal combustion engine and electric motorised bicycles in Australia

Most frustrating as i have (over 6 years) invested around $12,000 in my motorised bicycle and accessories.

you're pretty naive thinking cops know the law. they're trained to make money for the state, actually knowing the laws they're meant to be enforcing is well outside their job description.

they're just cops, and you shouldn't take anything they say as fact until you find one that's had four years of law school

 

[Fabian]

they're just cops, and you shouldn't take anything they say as fact until you find one that's had four years of law school

That's why they have a police legal department, filled with people that have years of law school under their belt.
The police legal department has clarified that the new laws completely ban all motorised bicycles, including internal combustion engines that comply with the 200 watt limit, and electric powered motorised bicycles that comply with the 200watt regulation but fall outside of the technical requirement for the pedals to be turning to provide power assist, and to disable power input when the bicycle exceeds 25 k/ph (15.5 mph). Monkey bikes are included in the revised regulations.

The revised laws are only for Victoria, but history proves that the other Australian states quickly follow draconian measures dreamed up in the state of Victoria.

 

[Deleted member 12676]

sorry to hear of your troubles Fabian.
time to get a moped.

 

[Frankenstein]

I do wonder, why is it that you can't register one of these? Is it just because you can't aquire a title or something?

 

[Street Ryderz]

They can't be registered here because they do not have a vin # that was applied buy a manufacture that meets the safety standards set by the ministry of transportation,and therefore no company to sue if found at fault!

 

[Frankenstein]

I think Fabian has enough experience to be considered a safe manufacturer.

Know any custom motorcycle builders? One could convince a friend to fix you up with a vin and an mco that could get you a title.

 

[JGH122]

A motorised bicycle with proper motive power is now classified as a motor vehicle in Australia, even if it cannot be registered.

You have no evidence to support that claim. (in canada they are referred to as a "prescribed vehicle"

 

[JGH122]

I think Fabian has enough experience to be considered a safe manufacturer.

Know any custom motorcycle builders? One could convince a friend to fix you up with a vin and an mco that could get you a title.

That is irrelevant. The importer must meet DOT requirements to be able to be issued a registration card and plates. Most mopeds (Yamaha, Honda, Puch, JAWA, etc) even though they have peddles still need registration and plates because they entered the country with a DOT registration plate that has a 17 digit ID #.