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Old 11-02-2009, 06:35 AM
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Default Vintage motorcycle tire styles

This is a question about tires, but only as it relates to board-track-era cycles (from 1900 to 1920 or so).
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I am considering attempting to make my own tires, so that I can have ones that look better than what is available. This will be so that I (and possibly others) can obtain tires that--while not the exact same dimensions--will at least have the correct tread styles and colors (something so far no commercial MTB tire company has been able to do). I haven't ever worked with molding rubber before, but all the people who say it can't be done have never tried it themselves and can't explain to me exactly why it can't be done--so I'm going to give it a spin, more or less.

What I already know is that all the required materials are available separately. I have some other things going on so it may be a month or two before I start messing with any of it.

There's plenty of Chinese companies that will do custom production work and they could do it much cheaper and better on their factory equipment than I could by hand, but there's two problems with them: most have a minimum order quantity of one 20-foot container of tires, and the cost of tooling a new tire tread mold is tens of thousands of dollars,,, and you don't even own it after you pay for it, you're just paying them to make a mold that they keep. (-Not that you would really have much use for the tire mold on your own, but the point is that even if you decide you no longer want their services, then they are free to crank out tires on a mold you paid your own money to build-)

So, I started looking around online for old photos showing what kinds of tires that these cycles really used to find out what varieties I'd need to create--and there appears to be only two styles, with some possible color variations among them. The two styles are the "button tread" and the "ribbed", and some other possibles are shown as well.
See this page:
http://www.norcom2000.com/users/dcim...ack/tires.html

If you can produce a vintage photo showing another style of tire tread, I'd like to see it. Be warned, I have been looking for a number of days now in my spare time with lots of search terms, on English-language pages, out to 40-50+ Google page results. If you can read other languages you may find things I missed, however.

Also note that for this purpose, only vintage photos are useful as evidence. Any modern restoration may have used the incorrect tires simply because it was one that was cheaper or easier to obtain than the proper tire, or they couldn't find any information that said what the proper tire really was.
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Old 11-02-2009, 01:50 PM
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I believe some variation of ribbed tread tires in white or black rubber were a fairly popular choice for the board track racing crowd. I imagine different tires may have been used for dirt tracks or endurance runs on roads.

Lots of good clear vintage shots.
http://theselvedgeyard.wordpress.com...y-h-d-history/
http://www.acenturyofmotorcycling.com/photos.htm
http://www.shorpy.com/node/5534?size=_original

Here's a few very detailed pictures, although they may not be racing tires specifically.
http://www.shorpy.com/node/5116?size=_original
http://www.shorpy.com/node/4999?size=_original
http://www.shorpy.com/node/3587?size=_original
http://www.shorpy.com/node/5914?size=_original
http://www.shorpy.com/node/5169?size=_original

An advert with good view of the tread patterns.
http://books.google.com/books?id=RN8...0tires&f=false

I do know that white and black button tread tires are available in 26" through coker.
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:36 PM
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Thanks, a couple pages there I had not found.
http://www.shorpy.com/node/5914?size=_original
These are Goodyear tires, I had seen a bunch of ads for them but none saying they were made for motorcycles.

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...I do know that white and black button tread tires are available in 26" through coker.
Those are vintage clinchers in fractional sizes. The diameter is wrong for MTB rims, and they won't fit on modern bicycle wheels at all because the tire bead is different.


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Old 11-04-2009, 08:38 AM
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Hey Doug,
Im afraid I dont know much about making tires, but if youre strictly looking for a good vintage style tire and not in this for the challenge of making your own, then I would check out the Felt Thick Brick:

[url]http://2009.feltracing.com/09-catalog/parts/cruiser-parts/09-felt-thick-brick-cruiser-tire.aspx[/url]

They fit on a 24" wheel but are so fat that they have a total diameter similar to a typical 26" tire/wheel. Their tread is very vintage and they have cream and black colors.

Also the schwalbe fat frank is really nice and comes in brown as well (26" only).
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