1935 Cyc-Auto from England

Discussion in 'Antique Motorized Bicycles' started by vintagebiker, Aug 2, 2007.

  1. vintagebiker

    vintagebiker Guest

    Cyc-Auto is credited with starting the Auto Cycle (Motorized Bicycles) craze in England and Europe. They came out 5 years before the Whizzers.

    1935 Model

    http://www.autocycles.co.uk/Archive/autocycle_111a.htm

    1951 Model

    http://www.autocycles.co.uk/Archive/autocycle_069.htm

    1941 Model

    http://www.autocycles.co.uk/Archive/autocycle_087.htm

    1943 Model

    http://www.autocycles.co.uk/Archive/autocycle_112a.htm

    1939 Model with cool fork.

    http://www.autocycles.co.uk/Archive/autocycle_161.htm

    1941 Model

    http://www.autocycles.co.uk/Archive/autocycle_230.htm

    Web page with many pics of vintage motoredbikes

    http://www.autocycles.co.uk/autocycle_a-z.htm
     
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  2. skyl4rk

    skyl4rk Guest

    Sometimes I think we are going backwards in technology. Those bikes look better than anything you can buy today.
     
  3. Those are great pics and bikes. its wierd the motor is infront of the BB, huh?..i mean there is so much space left over in the triangle. i guess if you look at a modern moped the chain line and motor are all in a line like in your old brit bike pics...and the handling must have been great on them with the weight so low to the ground. These kind of old motorbikes fueled my current project, so thanks for the pics.

    EM
     
  4. vintagebiker

    vintagebiker Guest

    The motors were placed there because they had a worm drive gear between the motor and the pedal cranks that spins the sprocket.

    The low center of gravity is a plus.

    Built in an era when quality mattered, rather than "How fast and cheap can we build it".
     
  5. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

     
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  6. BSA

    BSA Guest

    The cyclemaster was a good auto cycle as well. I wish they still made these machines.

    BSA
     
  7. ozzyu812

    ozzyu812 Member

  8. frameteam2003

    frameteam2003 Member

    The 39 model has the Webb forks--I'm building my "modern mini-motor"(staton chain drive)with a set of these webb forks on a 38 melvern star two star
    http://www.autocycles.co.uk/Archive/autocycle_161.htm
    I really like the way they work and they were also built for a drum brake and have a clip made to hold the brake arm---so the new Sturmey Archer drum fit them perfict.
    The Brits did a good job on motorbiking--that's why I'm copying their style---sam
     
  9. luke

    luke Guest

    cyclemaster trade bike cyc auto other junk pics

    heres a pic of my cyc auto 1938 and cyclemaster in trade bike with a couple of other wheels.bsa & sach.
     

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  10. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    You'll have such fun restoring that Luke. Tell me is the Cyc Auto the good wheel in the grocer's bike basket or the rusted one on the ground. Also is that in England and what is the motorbike in the background?
    I love the actual bike and the webbed forks.
     
  11. Whoa! These bikes are seriously awesome! I'd love to own one of them! The twi exhaust one looked nice, i love how the CoG is so low, must be nice, and the fact they all look so .. so ... neat? yeah neat! Mine currently is a mad geek haven with wires going all over the place doing various things :p
     
  12. duivendyk

    duivendyk Guest

    I noticed that one of the pics. has "Scott" painted on the fuel tank.I seem to recall that there was a manufacturer by that name in the UK once,they made 2 cyl.watercooled 2 strokes I think and had reputation for quality.Maybe they made the engine unit.
     
  13. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    With fuel costs & sustainability issues gaining strength I reckon we could see a ressurgence of bikes like these but with modern engines and all the other factors properly thought through in the design process. I don't think China will play much part in this except they might make the bike frames. The bikes will probably come out of Europe.
     
  14. duivendyk

    duivendyk Guest

    Mopeds used to be quite popular in Europe and still are among younger people,who need affordable transportation. With increasing prosperity people increasingly favored cars,although with the prevailing crowded road conditions, alternate modes of getting around often make more sense.The wet climate in Europe also was an important factor.In the fifties and sixties power assisted bicycles were quite popular,usually add-on friction drive designs,but the mopeds gradually took over,with increasing prosperity.From the eighties on a large section of the population could start affording cars and the number of two wheelers of all types dwindled,creating all sorts of traffic nightmares.The authorities are now atempting to lure people back on bicycles.In general distances in Europe are far shorter than in the US and the need to go faster (and use power assist) is less acute.So I'm not so sure that Europe is going to lead the way neccessarily.I do think that "greener" electric bikes are going to be popular there.All energy is expensive over there esp. hydrocarbons (10 $ per gallon for gas !)
     
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  15. BSA

    BSA Guest

    Unfortunately the law is too tight in europe, to use a motorized bicycle 100% legally you must register it as a vehicle, requiring it to pass some ridiculous test on safety, emmisions and the like. It is basically impossible for a home builder to pass one of these tests without a large amount of money being spent on it.

    My favorite cyclemotor is the cyclemaster: http://www.vintagebike.co.uk/Bike Directories/Raleigh Bikes/pages/Raleigh-Cycle-Master-55.htm

    BSA
     
  16. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    wow - being turned on to that site - made my day.. Those are some cool old MBs.. I am getting back into riding -- so if this is a silly question -- sorry -- but -- are there any new MBs available now -- that look anything like these old bikes ? Happy Riding from - Mountainman
     
  17. BSA

    BSA Guest

    Not really, I like the roundhead happy times because they have an old fashioned apperence and they smoke like an old engine:cool:

    BSA
     
  18. duivendyk

    duivendyk Guest

    That Raleigh looked pretty cool,I wonder about the cooling,no sign of a blower.Yes they have the super nanny state over in Europe,I don't know how bad things are in the UK. I was in Holland a year ago and found out that threeway electrical outlets of the plug-in variety had been outlawed by the meddlesome Nitwits in Brussels,you could not buy one anywhere any more.I found a couple in my junkpile and sent it to my brother,ridiculous!!
     
  19. ewok9

    ewok9 New Member

    Yes the Cyc-Auto was the brand produced in close co-operation the Scott Motorcycle company of Shipley Yorks. UK, with a 98cc. engine, mag set across on the front ,inline crankshaft with a bevel drive. I had one when a lad in about1954 (needed registering and insurance even then in England)
    Scotts were and are famous for their two cycle twin bikes and even won the Isle of Man Senior Tourist Trophy race with them. I still have a 1938 Scott "Flying Squirrel" which just "yowls" up the road....( 600 cc. water cooled).

    If you want to learn more of Scott's just look on the "web" under Scott Owner's Club or a search.


    Happy days in biking !!
     
  20. duivendyk

    duivendyk Guest

    The 600 cc Scott must have been quite a powerhouse in it's day and given the single bangers fits + leave your teeth in place.That elegant Cyc-Auto design ought to be resurrected,adequate torque with 98 cc,low CG and excellent economy of space,what more could you ask for really?
     
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