4 Stroke Dyno GT Or Whizzer ?

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by chain, Jul 30, 2015.

  1. chain

    chain Member

    I got a great Dyno frame that I love the looks of :helmet:.
    My question is , After all said and done I'm probably lookin at $1000 for this build For Me .
    4 stroke , Jackshaft , custom tank , Frame powder coat , etc ...
    Should I just get a Whizzer ?:idea:
    I'm looking to have something Reliable Un-Like my 2 stroke .
    I don't want to be 75% WORKING ON IT , 10% CURSING AT IT AND 15% RIDING IT .
    And I want it quite .
    What do you guys think ?
    I'll still have the 2 stroke to play with work on get ****ed and yell at :shout: .
    Really all Opinions Welcome .
    Thanks
     

  2. 2old2learn

    2old2learn Member

    Depending on where you live, you should be able to find a willing buyer if you build it and then change your mind to still get a Whizzer. So it may not be either or, but perhaps both.
     
  3. chain

    chain Member

    I'm not comfortable with selling something like these bikes > I know a lot of you guys do, It's just not
    what I want to do .But I appreciate your input .I live at the beach so Flat and slow riding .
     
  4. butterbean

    butterbean Well-Known Member

    Dynos are not my favorite bike, so my first thought would be to get a whizzer. However, with the right forks and paint job, a dyno isn't completely terrible and you have the added benefit of being able to mix and match so many part. Don't really get that with a whizzer, you can change certain things but a whizzer is a kit, certain parts work with it and certain parts don't.
     
  5. chain

    chain Member

    Hey , Well lets say we use a bike You like .....something not "completely terrible" maybe one of those Pink Barbie Bikes . The question is .If you make it just how You like it , is it better to have something like that or a Whizzer that might hold it's value have all the lights you need and maybe be more reliable ?
    Thanks man .
     
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2015
  6. butterbean

    butterbean Well-Known Member

    You said all opinions are welcome. My opinion is, I don't like dynos a whole lot. But I will always say custom is better. It is possible to build a custom bike that is also safe and reliable, and build your own lighting system. I'm working on a fully custom bike right now, 1956 roadmaster frame, Suzuki hydraulic forks (which look great on a dyno BTW), built my own wheels and I'm designing my own lighting system, 79cc predator engine. Got about a grand in it. I don't know how you jumped from dynos to pink barbie bikes, but good luck with either one.
     
  7. butterbean

    butterbean Well-Known Member

    You really didn't have to take it so personal that I don't like dynos. You could say roadmasters are ugly as sin, I wouldn't care, that's your opinion. There are a few other bikes I don't like also. And its not as if you personally designed and built the dyno, so take it easy. They're just ugly to me. Can't help it.
     
  8. butterbean

    butterbean Well-Known Member

    There are people with well over 10k miles on predator engines, so reliability is not an issue. As far as holding its value, that really depends more on how you build it and how you take care of it. A very well built bike will hold its value over time. Sure a whizzer comes with lights, but it ain't that hard to build your own. I can even link you to a YouTube video that shows you how to build a circuit that turns any led bulb or strip into a dual intensity light. This circuit works for front and rear lights. Battery and charging system is fairly simple. Tire dynamo, scooter rectifier and small 12v battery, some wire terminals, I actually made a Facebook post on my lighting system in two different motorbike groups.
     
  9. chain

    chain Member

    David+LaChapelle-+Britney+Spears_01.jpg Hey take it easy !!! Now you don't like Barbie Bikes either !!!
     
  10. chain

    chain Member

    So are you building that bike for you ? I guess Im havin a hard time with this because I like the building of a bike but I don't want to have to Fix it constantly . I don't mind servicing it and taking care of it but having to fix it is just a pain you know?
     
  11. butterbean

    butterbean Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I'm building this bike for me. Like you, I don't build bikes to sell. I definitely don't expect to have to constantly fix this bike. All I expect to have to do is put gas in the tank, air in the tires and change the oil.
     
  12. chain

    chain Member

    You know I see a lot of guys using that motor . Now I built my chopper and worked for Harley for 6 years but
    I don't know if I could just get the motor and come up with everything else I need like mounting and drive and all that .
    How the hell do you do it ? I was looking at the Bicycle-engins.com kit that I hear a lot of people use but I dig the idea of the Predator
    motor cuz there is a Harbor freight right down the rd . So if I blow it up I just get a new one .
     
  13. chain

    chain Member

    You know I see a lot of guys using that motor . Now I built my chopper and worked for Harley for 6 years but
    I don't know if I could just get the motor and come up with everything else I need like mounting and drive and all that .
    How the hell do you do it ? I was looking at the Bicycle-engins.com kit that I hear a lot of people use but I dig the idea of the Predator
    motor cuz there is a Harbor freight right down the rd . So if I blow it up I just get a new one . I guess i could do it to a 2 stroke from scratch because I have one and replaced most stuff on it already . But I want a 4 stroke this time and never seen one in person so .
     
  14. 2old2learn

    2old2learn Member

    If I was 20 years younger I'd certainly like to take that baby for a ride!
     
  15. chain

    chain Member

    HAHA ! You Go Man !!!
     
  16. butterbean

    butterbean Well-Known Member

    Well, there is a website, www.affordable go karts.com, they sell quite a few parts for the predator. The mounting depends whether you want to mount the engine horizontal or vertical. I chose to mount vertically. Agk sells a mount which is intended to mount horizontally. I have this mount. I modified it to work vertically by grinding it on one side so my pedal sprocket could clear it and I also had to drill extra holes in it to be able to mount it to the seat tube. I am using chain tensioner clamps to hold it to the seat tube, and two stroke engine mount blocks to space it away from the seat tube so the engine sits more in the middle of the triangle. Agk also sells a transmission that is a simple chain drive jackshaft for gear reduction, and they offer different size input sprockets so you can customize your gear ratio to your liking but it comes stock with a 22t sprocket so you have to tell them if you want 24, 26 or 28 instead. I'm running a 28t, this lowers the ratio for better takeoff and climbing. As far as carbs you have a few different options. The two stroke NT carb will fit if you get a 40mm shorty intake, you can also use a reworked stock carb but you will need to buy or fabricate a throttle linkage for it. You can also use a 19mm carb, which I am using and I think is best because it has a bigger throat than the NT or the reworked stock carb, and you don't need a linkage for it because the throttle slide is internal, in fact it's almost exactly the same as the NT throttle slide, the slide is just a little longer. You will need a manifold if you use a 19mm carb, agk sells those also, as well as complete exhausts and build your own headers. You will need a clutch too, maxtorque are the cheapest that are half decent, you see why I've got a grand in my bike lol .
     
  17. chain

    chain Member

    Hey ,
    So I think I figured it out . Not to get philosophical on you but ..... To do all that ,I think this has to be a passion .You must have a passion for this since your not doin it for the cash . I have a passion with 2 things , My leather work and my Harley . I did all that and more to the Harley and still doin it . Bin workin on it for 20 years LOL and still go out to the garage just to look and touch it every day , but the motorized bike is a hobby just for fun . I just cant bring my self to do that much work to it . Now , when I ride it im smiling like a idiot doin 30 mph ,Like bein on the Harley doin 130 mph . So I think it's another kit build 4 stroke with a few customizations on it . wam bam thanks man , but its a kit for me(OR A WHIZZER haha ) .I think I'm leaning towards the Ugly Dyno Build though ! ha. Got respect for you guys and didn't relies how much work can and does go into these thing .


     
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