50 MPH high voltage electro bike plans for sale?

Discussion in 'Electric Bicycles' started by Phantombiker1, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. Phantombiker1

    Phantombiker1 New Member

    The cops around here are getting annoyingly interested in gas powered bikes.
    I've been seeing alot of those cheap hub motored electro bikes that are popular with delivery riders.
    As with all things bicycle, things break and this one rider bought his stretched delivery frame bike into the shop for a few repairs, his regular drive system was a mess (shark toothed chain rings, the chain was shot, rear derailleur tab was bent and the rear gear cluster was worn out, cables stretched and it was filthy)
    We got him up and running in short order but this was the first time I'd had a hub motor bike on my stand and i gave it a good inspection.
    350w rear hub 36v lith ion batteries,crappy looking controls....Hmmmm
    After replacing his worn out drive components(and an over night recharge) I took the bike out for a shake down spin and was unimpressed with its performance, but it was QUIET! exactly what the doctor ordered for my little police problem.
    This got me thinking, I'm sure some were some one has built it better, so i got on the net and started searching and came across a page touting a 50 mph high powered electric bicycle.
    Here is the kicker, the guy is selling the plans as a book for about $50 dollars.
    My question is is this guy for real?
    Has anyone had any experience with this bike or its plans? or is it just another internet scam?
    heres the link>
    http://www.fastelectricbike.com/book.html
    Any light anyone can shed on this will be appreciated.
    keep the shiny side up rubber side down and watch out for cars!:helmet:
    Phantom
     

  2. augidog

    augidog Banned

    just go to MBc's electric section and learn what you need for free.

    btw, i wonder how your cops would feel about a 50mph motor-assisted-bicycle? if you need to go that fast please just get a motorcycle...let's keep it real, my friend, so we can all keep riding :cool:
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2010
  3. hurricane

    hurricane Member

    I have the same feelings about motor assisted bikes,if you want to go fast just by a real motorcycle that can handle those speeds. All the money spent on souping up your motorized bike to make it go faster than 35mph is better spent on real motorcycle's .


    @phantom i saw that page before,that bike is nice but plan out spending almost 2K to make it like his.
     
  4. spad4me

    spad4me Member

    Just a thought.
    Look for FREE in this sites electric bike section for posts by aussie jester , thud, and recompense.
    Or look http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=28 for the same people plus the fastest electric bicycle by liveforphysics.
    also for free.
    Recompense offers group buys of very expensive astaro motors for like 1/4 the list price,as well as the most popular 2 stage reduction drive with slipper clutch that I know of.
    Plus proven subjects like motorcycle rims and tires which you will need .

    FYI TO ACHIVE 50+ MPH ON AN ELECTRIC BIKE EXPECT TO SPEND 2 GRAND ON BATTERIES ALONE.
    WHY NOT JUST GET A QUIET IN FRAME 4 STROKE WITH A SICK BIKE PARTS SHIFT KIT LOTS CHEAPER?
     
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2010
  5. RedBaronX

    RedBaronX Member

    I wouldn't be concerned with the $50 price tag for the book as much as I would be concerned with the $3000 price tag he says his bike design costs to build.... not that any of that $3k is going in the author's pocket, so it's not a scam in THAT sense, but that's a lot of money for a home made electric bike.
     
  6. Phantombiker1

    Phantombiker1 New Member

    Ok....replies to the posts in order-
    #1,augidog-thanks for your OPINION...but that's not the point.Top speed never was. and 'Keep it real"? please ... I'll hold on to my own ideas of whats "real"and whats sanctimonious b/s, and if i wanted a real motorcycle id buy one.
    #2,hurricane-No one asked for your "feelings" on the matter, no one cares how you "feel".
    #3,spad4me, the first real piece of info... thanks, but here in Bloomburgian New York gas engines aren't kosher so its gotta be electric.
    As I've said before, top speed isn't the point, I'm a big heavy guy and i need torque, and yes,I'm aware of how much batteries will cost.
    Besides, those cheesy little Chinese roto tiller engines just don't look reliable enough.
    #4,RedBaronX, i bought the book, it was worth the price just in what not to try and building diagrams alone.
    $3000?> i think not, since i already have a good large frame, some mega strong free-ride wheels with 203 mm disc brakes.
    I found a good source for the twin batt. set up i want to run. Motor, controller,batt management system, and a few other parts to be ordered from a industrial robotics supplier will all cost approximately $1600 or about the price of a decent brand new Shimano XT equipt disc brake mountain bike... well worth the price of the book.

    I understand this one caused a bit of back and forth fighting between certain persons whose opinions of them self's are somewhat over rated.
    please, please, gentleman... no need to fight or exchange insults.
    you know if your helping or not, if not, please keep your OPINIONS to yourself.
    thanks for the help... to the bat cave!... we got some building to do!
    Phantom
     
  7. RedBaronX

    RedBaronX Member

    I was quoting the author, right off of his site: "Using my guide you can build a bike exactly like mine for a little over $3000 using the lastest technology bike parts and batteries."
     
  8. hurricane

    hurricane Member

    @Phantom, its people like you that get bullied in school. Your a moron , and stop with the dumb Private messages to me.
     
  9. augidog

    augidog Banned

    gee phantom, i had you all wrong i guess...somehow i thought you were all about "scary fast"...i wonder how that happened.

    please, excuse me for taking you at your word. you've made it clear that's not a good idea, and i assure you i will never make that mistake again.

    and thank you for setting me straight, i didn't know i wasn't allowed to express my OPINION.
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2010
  10. RedBaronX

    RedBaronX Member

    anybody else wonder if the real point of this thread was just to get that book for sale mentioned on the forum?
     
  11. augidog

    augidog Banned

    yathink? now who would wanna do that? let's give him a break...after all, he himself said he didn't want to fight or exchange insults. i trust him, don't you?
     
  12. Phantombiker1

    Phantombiker1 New Member

    <Sigh>
    I was just asking if any one knew about the book and its veracity.You guys have WAY to much time on your hands, I've got better things to do than becoming caught up in your little B/S post it games.
    GROW UP.
    And hurricane, Ive never messaged you nor would i.
     
  13. Phantombiker1

    Phantombiker1 New Member

    Well, there's a big difference between 1600 and 3000, i stand by what i said.
     
  14. Phantombiker1

    Phantombiker1 New Member

    That doesn't mean I'm just going to let you say what ever you want. lets drop it, Ive got better things to do.
     
  15. hurricane

    hurricane Member

    Maybe it was your other sign in name buzbikebklyn1 ? Kinda got the "feeling" you two are the same person ?

    anyways ,Im done with this thread
     
  16. RedBaronX

    RedBaronX Member

    you're arguing something that isn't an argument-- it might cost YOU less than the $3000+ the author quotes because you've already got the bike and other components that OTHER people would still have to get... doesn't change the fact that it would cost someone starting completely from scratch a LOT of money.
     
  17. augidog

    augidog Banned

    ok, i'll backpedal a little bit if it helps.

    phantom...i didn't say anything that was out of line...surely you realize the large majority of MB'ers are not qualified to properly build or operate a motoredbike capable of 50mph...and as someone who loves this motorsport for both it's legacy and it's potential, and as someone who feels personal responsibility for the welfare and safety of our entry-level participants, i try to illustrate there's more to "us" than just zoomy-zoom.

    do i think i can change your way of thinking? hardly. i just wanted to give you something more to think about. your info is public, for all to see, even those who may be researching how to tame us or even fully shut us down. if your OP had more clearly stated your reasoning behind your need for power, it's unlikely i would have had anything to say at all.

    now, your insult-packed retort, on the other hand...well, who could resist, eh?

    hurricane, i don't believe BBB and phantom are the same person...i could be wrong, but staff would catch it if it were so, they're way good about that.
     
  18. louishb50cc

    louishb50cc New Member

    You gotta point redphantom and is there any real point in this guy posting here in the first place? Seen as he cant take any advice anyway. Also he seems desparate to shut down the talk so quickly. (Makes ya think) People like this shouldnt be allowed on this forum.
     
  19. augidog

    augidog Banned

    yeah...who the heck let me in here?
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2010
  20. RedBaronX

    RedBaronX Member

    I think louishb50cc got the names confused and mashed up my name and phantom...
     
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