A hybrid KIT to hit the market?

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by SirJakesus, Jun 12, 2008.

  1. SirJakesus

    SirJakesus Guest

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  2. turbo/chaos

    turbo/chaos Guest

    so that is what it looks like i heard aboute that last year
     
  3. Wow! This is very cool. All they need now is a controller that automatically switches between them as necessary.
     
  4. So the nuvinci is within the gearbox?
     
  5. srdavo

    srdavo Active Member

    I think the NuVinci is just mentioned as a drive-train option.
     
  6. loquin

    loquin Active Member

    That's the way I read it, too.
     
  7. You would think with all that as a rack mount you can get a CVT in between. Then with a freewheel sprocket and just one battery for the engine will keep that puppy charged up you have an epic win of a bike you can still pedal with very little drag.
    I would assume the A/C part is for getting up to speed till the engine can take over at 1/4 throttle. With high gearing that 1/4 throttle could equal 20 mph or more.
     
  8. SirJakesus

    SirJakesus Guest

    The staton gearbox is made up of 3 gears to achieve the 18:1 reduction on the output shaft that has the freewheel attached. By the looks of it the engine and the motor would have the same reduction as they are probably both driving the same first gear in the system. If done properly this would give the user the option of all IC engine power, all motor power or both at the same time through the NuVinci hub (plus pedal power of course.) This thing would be able to really climb anything and accelerate at great speed. The fact that the engine will be spinning the motor at 3000+ rpm would also mean almost no charging of the batteries would be needed unless they were used heavily on bike trails or whatever. This also gives the added bonus of a self sustaining full electrical lighting and accessory setup. The only features this setup will lack are regenerative braking since the NV hub freewheels and an electric start engine. Pedaling is already optional with decent acceleration on my setup, I couldn't imagine how much arse this thing will haul.
     
  9. duivendyk

    duivendyk Guest

    Seem like a solution looking for a problem,a 35 cc engine is not expensive to run and if you want to save the environment,clean up the engine first !.Teaming it up with an electric motor would give you a bit more top speed,but you add a lot of weight esp if you also use a NV hub.It would make a tiny bit of sense sense if you had regenerative braking.Light batteries (LI-ion) with enough capacity are quite expensive and are tricky to charge,while lead acid batteries are have a lousy stored power/weight ratio.The only useful application for this type gearbox is that you could drive a generator (10/50 ) watts for the electrics.It's going to be expensive as **** and a real boat anchor. Only daft greenies with more money than sense would fall for it.
     
  10. lennyharp

    lennyharp Member

    This may be a good solution to maximizing what we have now. Use some gas but not as much, have a solid recharge system built into the motor/engine, and be a little more self sufficient. We have to start some where and I will start saving my pennies to get one. I already am sold on the NuVinci hubs as an improvement.
     
  11. sparky

    sparky Active Member

    Just stumbled upon this at Staton's site yesterday....

    COOL!! I can't wait 'til someone reviews it.
     
  12. SimpleSimon

    SimpleSimon Active Member

    I like the looks of that, but I don't see the need. I've concluded that for powering my tadpole I'll go with a Currie type drive on each front wheel, powered by a small portable generator driven by a 2 stroke (perhaps 4 stroke) engine, a single deep cycle battery for load smoothing.

    Put 350 watts of power on each front wheel, set up to freewhel when not in use, and go with a Shimano multi-speed hub at the rear, driven conventionally. The really lovely part of doing the system I envision is when I need silent running, I can shut down the generator. Until I can afford that, I'll be pedalling.
     
  13. SirJakesus

    SirJakesus Guest

    Well, a dual currie system is going to be fairly complex to install and manage. With the setup shown there the engine and motor work together to be a complete system without the inefficiencies of converting gas to electric to mechanical power again. In this system you could use the gas only, electric only or a combination of the two and drive them through a nuvinci hub for a wide range of gearing on the pedals and engine power. When the engine is running and the electric motor is not it acts as a generator and keeps your batteries topped up. It seems like it'll be killer for sure, and if it's made by staton you can count on it being durable as heck.
     
  14. graucho

    graucho Active Member

    Thats so cool! After taking my 110 mile trip (6hrs straight) running my little workhorse Subaru EH035 Im going to stick with my stock set up with a larger fuel tank. This engine is so reliable for me and not to mention 174 mpg I cant justify the $ upgrade. But I do love the dual technology set up. I also like how they mention this will also be used for small Hybrids Vehicles, trikes, four wheelers and Bicycles depending on the design.
     
  15. duivendyk

    duivendyk Guest

    This is going to be extremely heavy, expensive, complicated and rather inefficient.
     
  16. lennyharp

    lennyharp Member

    Graucho,

    I am interested in doing some 100 mile plus trips. Maybe you can start another thread telling about your long run.!. Thanks.
     
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