advise on selling 196cc push trailer...

Discussion in 'Push Trailers' started by macarollo, Mar 11, 2009.

  1. macarollo

    macarollo Guest

    I listed my motorized bike for sale on craigslist. There are two posts commenting on my bike (same guy) and they are both negative. I did go back and edit my listing after reading his comments.

    I really enjoy it, but I would like to get my money out of it.

    Obviously it is illegal to go 50mph on the streets, but my bike is capable of doing that.

    FL law says legal mopeds must be 50cc or less, 2 HP, and not faster than 30mph.

    How should I go about selling it? No DMV would register my push trailer. Should I change the gearing so it cannot go faster than 35 mph? Should I just tell people it is a recreational vehicle meant to be ridden on private property?

    Here is the direct link to my post...

    Use the previous link to see the other guys postings....
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  2. macarollo

    macarollo Guest

    The last thing I want is someone getting hurt on my machine that I sold them.
  3. Rgvkid

    Rgvkid Member

    Best thing if you sell it is to have the buyer sign a paper or waiver you can write up saying At Own Risk and As Is. Have you received any responses on interested buyers? If so, and if they are serious, then make sure you have them sign a waiver and explain that it is off road only. They can do what ever they like with it on street or not. Being that your bike is made with nuts and bolts, I would make sure to use Blue lock tight on all bolts because you don't know if the buyer will maintenance it like you would.

    Why are you selling?
  4. macarollo

    macarollo Guest

    No responses yet. My last MB I sold took me several weeks to sell.

    I am selling for several reasons. I would like to get the money from it so I can spend it other ways. Now that I reached my 50mph goal, the thrill of riding it has gone down. I have a motorcycle as well that doesn't get ridden because I am riding this. Lastly, I am afraid of being stopped by the police... especially if I am going fast.

    I like the waiver idea... I will definately do that.
  5. Rgvkid

    Rgvkid Member

    After I finish my 6.5 trailer. I will most likely build one with a 2.5 and try to register that one for less worries. I can always use the 6.5 in a go kart for the kids.
  6. HoughMade

    HoughMade Guest

    List that it is for "off road use only"- what the buyer does with it is their problem.
  7. macarollo

    macarollo Guest

    Any idea what a good selling price would be?

    I sold my HT 70cc kit in October for $400. Now I am asking firm $550. Should I ask more, less, or does that seem about right?

    196cc bike pusher. 50mph top speed.
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  8. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    that sums it up

    seems to sum it up

    it's illegal to be ridden on any public highway, road, sidewalk or property...

    gearing has noting to do with it...

    you are over both the cc and hp limit not only for your state but I think all states, countries ??

    can not be registered for street use

    call it out to the buyer just as it is
    I would keep a copy of my ad stating -- for off road use
    and not a bad idea to have buyer sign something -- ((((( buyer must be over 18....... )))))

    a fair asking price -- what you have invested ( - 25% ) used and illegal

    as they ride that pooolice catching THING
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  9. Rgvkid

    Rgvkid Member

    I would say ask what you paid for +25% depending on the condition of teh motor. Why -25%, you put alot of labor into it which most people would have no idea how to build. Doesn't hurt to ask and have the capacity to work down the price if you have to. If you get no responses then reduce the price in a week or 2 and try it again.

    "Off-road use only", written waiver, over 18, those are all good to have. After that, who cares if they get stopped by the police, its on them and its their prerogative what they do and its up to them to do the research.

    If your worried about the mechanics of the setup then just go through it and lock tight all the nuts and bolts and point out to the buyer what you have beefied up and any concerns about stability. Once they take it for a ride, im sure they will be hooked.
  10. Don't sell it to a kid under 18. Parent can sue you if the kid gets in a wreck.
  11. graucho

    graucho Active Member

    Hi macarollo. IMO, Too much info. Your target audience is very slim. Those interested probably have seen them on youtube or have read about them.

    You have to increase/expand your marketing audience to the whole country. Include shipping options. Ebay, linked to a video clip to youtube?
  12. Gungatim

    Gungatim Member

    Just my opinion, but it seems to me that anyone interested in something like that is probably the type of person that would build it themselves, not purchase it for 3X the cost of parts. It will be difficult to sell. I find that even when I try to sell factory made things that need even the slightest amount of work, most people are scared away. There are fewer of us around that don't mind tinkering and fixing things, especially someone elses one-off contraption. But you never know, maybe Ebay...
  13. macarollo

    macarollo Guest

    I am definately not charging 3x what the parts cost. I would have to sit down and add them all up.

    I did sell my HT kit bike for $400. I only had about $250 in it.

    I do agree, it is going to take a special person to buy my rig.
  14. ZnsaneRyder

    ZnsaneRyder Member

    If you are concerned with excessive top speed, there's a screw in the throttle assembly you can turn to limit max throttle travel. You can easily limit it to only go 30mph max, which is still slower than many regular 50-80cc MB's.

    Sell it at their own risk. Make yourself not accountable for their riding. It just happens, that you can get hurt on any bicycle, so they need to be aware of that. If you are smart these can be rode fine, as legal as possible, just don't go too fast in the wrong places. Keep the HP for the highway, and cruise easy in town at nice and quiet low RPM.

    It's just as legal as any 80cc bike engine kit would be. Over the displacement and HP, so drive it slow.

    IMO, you shouldn't sell it, but keep it as a toy for yourself. If you really must sell it, you could even try to find a cheaper used engine to put in the place of the 6.5, so it won't be so fast, and use the 6.5 for another project. I'm putting a used 2HP briggs on my old trailer so I can sell it with legal HP, geared for 25mph max, and be slower and safe. If you do still sell it with the 6.5, set a good price for it.

    Either way, these trailers are cool, many people want one. Few dare to ride with one, hehehehe!
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  15. macarollo

    macarollo Guest

    Finding someone crazy enough to ride it is the hard part.

    I keep thinking that if I sell it.... one day I might be watching the local news and see a story about someone getting in a terrible accident who was riding a 50mph bike pusher.

    If I didn't destory and remove the governor gear I could simply use that to keep the speeds at a sane speed. Probably with the governor it would hit 35mph tops.
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  16. macarollo

    macarollo Guest

    I know there is someone out there who will want it. I get comments on it all the time.

    I am trying to get maximum dollar out of my rig. I will lower the price if I get no bites. One guy emailed me an offer of $200. I couldn't believe him.

    I sold my crappy time setup for $400, I think this one is worth more.
  17. 5-7HEAVEN

    5-7HEAVEN Guest

    Make another video on You-tube, mentioning your intent to sell.

    :idea:Sell it there.

    Worldwide exposure.
  18. Rgvkid

    Rgvkid Member

    Yah, make another video before you sell. We want to see some action shots. I'd like to see how well it does going up hill.
  19. macarollo

    macarollo Guest

    I am asking $550 for now. MY HT sold for $400 so I figured this one is at least $150 better... it goes 50mph vs. the HT 30mph.

    The guy who said $200.... I replied and told him that was insultingly low. He said sorry he cannot do more... "the economy is just too bad right now"... the email showed that he sent the message from his Blackberry Bold.

    The economy is too bad to pay for a motorized bike, but not too bad to pay for a nice top of the line Blackberry?
  20. ZnsaneRyder

    ZnsaneRyder Member

    Ignore the idiots that are trying to scam you by asking for a stupidly low price. The economy is just an excuse. If someone has the money, they will pay for it.

    The dummy asking for only $200 obviously doesn't know the value of such machinery. The engine+clutch alone is worth over $200, not even counting the rest of the trailer.

    Keep your price firm. Your rig is still BRAND NEW! Nobody serious would invest $$$ into a new project, just to sell it for less than they payed for it. I'd only sell it for less if it was used a lot. You don't even have near 500 miles on it yet.

    Don't be in too big of a hurry to sell it. Just make a profit, that's the main thing.

    How about adding something to the trailer to haul stuff. That IMO would raise the value and make it much more appealing. In other words, it would be more than just a bike pusher, it would make it a working motorized trailer.
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