Any alternate to welding

Discussion in 'Painting, Welding, Bending and Gas Tanks' started by will_start, Apr 7, 2009.

  1. will_start

    will_start Member


    I snapped the bottom fork to the back wheel,
    on my bike.

    About 1 inch out from the axle.

    I have welded it back together twice
    and still snapped it again.

    other than chucking the bike away,
    Do I have any other options ?

    I finally got it running, and had some great rides,
    put a night light on it and all.
    only to have it snap again...

  2. graucho

    graucho Active Member

    If you re-weld it again, is it possible to weld extra supports on each side of the frame/fork for tripple strength? or is it too close to the axle?
  3. cooltoy

    cooltoy Member

    To find a piece of tubing that would slide over the broken part would be ideal but you may not have the room. It would be nice if you could slide this over the chain stay, weld up the frame and slide it over the weld and then weld the ends.
    Or how about welding a 5 inch long piece of angle iron to the bottom of the repaired joint. You need to spread the pressure away from your weld,
  4. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    Post pics & give everyone a look.
  5. will_start

    will_start Member

    I'll take some pics, and I'll have to reborrow the welder off Keith, KJPARKER (on here)
    Looks like welding is the only way.
  6. cooltoy

    cooltoy Member

    I was just thinking, if you were to slide a solid bar into the tube and was able to slide it over so that half was on one side of the break and the other half on the other side of the break, one good weld would connect everything and that would never bother you again.
  7. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    The inside diameter of the tube probably tapers down.....that's why i requested pics.

    PS...Probably best to weld it(again)....grind the weld back & put a sleeve over the entire thing(weld that to) but without seeing what your up against it's hard to say.
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 7, 2009
  8. will_start

    will_start Member

    Maybe I could take it to someone to weld.
    As I would have to borrow the welder.

    Picture the bottom bar of the back wheel on the sprocket side.
    As I said, about one inch from the axle, the crack runs at 45 degrees to the bar.

    I can take some photo's this weekend...
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2009
  9. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    get an experienced welder to take a look

    sure that can be welded up
    but if you have already welded it a couple of times
    you must be doing something wrong
    wrong heat, welding rod, bracing added
    either get an experienced welder to take a look
    how much do you truly love that frame
    could be time for a new one ???

    ride thee MB thing
  10. will_start

    will_start Member

    I just rang a welder, I'm going to drop it to him on Saturday.
    He said about $50 should cover the job.

    I'll try and get some pics before and after.
  11. darwin

    darwin Well-Known Member

    If it were me ID buy another used bike frame.
  12. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    been a while since I burnt a rod !!!

    but -- that is NOT a fair price to weld !!

    if one takes the rear wheel off
    sands and gets ready
    closer to 25 dollars seems resonable ??

    maybe shop around ??

  13. spad4me

    spad4me Member

    I recently needed to remove a 3 piece crank .
    The only surviving bike shop in 60 miles charged me $40.00 to remove the crank arms .
    Needless to say I will never return.
    I bought the tool from sick bike parts for $10.00 . This operation takes about ten seconds.
    Live and learn.
  14. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    how can they do take and sleep at night !!!

    it's been so many years now since I owned a bicycle shop
    can't remember what we charged to remove crank arms
    but I am sure of one THING it would not have been much

    well I guess the only good THING about your visit to that shop was

    at least you know now where not to go

    good luck -- happy riding

  15. will_start

    will_start Member

    25 US dollars probably now equals 50 australian dollars.

    They've had the bike for 3 weeks and continue to say soon, its not even been started yet.
    on the up side, my family are buying me a new motor for my 40th birthday.
    So I'm going to buy a new moutain bike to go with it, as my present to myself.
    Last edited: May 24, 2009
  16. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    25 US probably equals 50 Australian

    got me there -- sure didn't know that
    hope that your min pay is higher than ours -- around 8 dollars

    they shouldn't have said they would do the job if they thought it would take that long !!!

    the waiting if the hardest part -- Tom Petty

  17. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    US$25=approx AU$32

    3 weeks.....their effing u around.
    Take it somewhere else;book it in first cos some specialist welders need to have their equipment setup first.
    Good luck.
    Last edited by a moderator: May 24, 2009
  18. SirJakesus

    SirJakesus Guest

    For that kinda price you might as well just buy a welder. Even if you use it only a few times you got your moneys worth.
    As a general rule I do all my own repair and maintenance work unless it requires specialized and very expensive equipment. Just do your research first and take your time. It's worked for me so far. I've probably saved thousands on just my car upkeep alone.

    Besides, I don't like other people touching my THINGS when I'm not around to see they're not causing even more damage.
  19. just get another bike,they are only like $99 new and less if you get used.
  20. will_start

    will_start Member

    I spent alot of time to get my bike working properly,
    only to have it fail in this way.
    I am doing a new build, seperate to this bike.
    and haven't seen any $99 bikes at local shops.

    I have grown attached to this bike having owned it for like 9 years.
    ...can't explain it better than that.