anyone bought this?

[5-7HEAVEN]

I wouldn't buy one... I just ordered a another staton kit. 206 shipped... without the motor. I have an eho35 laying around I am going to put on it. Both are bulletproof.

Both staton and robin/subaru are two companies I know for sure are top notch quality... I dont know about the people that made the engine and kit that are on ebay.

You always.... always get what you pay for.

That's not true.

I've purchased several friction drives from the top two vendors. Both are top quality, but BMP is MUCH cheaper than the other for my situation. The other guy absolutely kills me with UPS charges, while BMP offers free shipping. And since I change rollers and bearings often, BMP's slipfit design works better for me. It costs me $80 to remove a 1.5" roller and bearings from the other guy.

FWIW, I have no need of experimenting with another friction drive kit.

BTW, the versatility of BMP's kit and its cheap price allows me to use it as a base for my prototypical belt drive and chain drive projects. My belt drive should cost less than $75; my chain drive a little over $100.

Sometimes you get MORE than what you pay for.

Sometimes you get what you pay for.

Sometimes you get shafted and get less than what you pay for.

 

[Happy Valley]

To be fair, apples and apples:

UPS shipping to Hawaii must be problematic for just about anything.

Staton FD kits are available, complete with Robin EHO35 engine, throttle cable, throttle lever and a great kill switch for $399 and free shipping

The BMP kits, without an engine are $166.50, including cable, lever, switch and shipping.

The best retail price I've seen on a Robin 35 is around $230 shipped.

166
230
396

BMP now charges shipping for parts.

Changing a roller on a Staton FD has never cost me a penny. I do have a cheap shop press, use it for many things other than MBs, paid $60 at a HF.

 

[occchopperfl]

so happy, youd go with staton then?

thank you.

 

[Happy Valley]

so happy, youd go with staton then?

thank you.

Hi occ

Just stating what I think is fair comparison.

I have both and think both are fine really. The BMP kits are a copy of the Staton after all. I did like the BMP one-way clutch roller but I see they are not being offered any longer. Some of the choice might depend on what engine one wants to use. If it's a Robin 35 then yeah I'd definitely go with Staton, since he retails that engine new on a regular basis. If someone is thinking about using a HF clone or sourcing something else, then maybe BMP is the way to go.

 

[occchopperfl]

Happy,

ok, fair enough.

so if you had a second to decide,

a. staton fd/ subaru free shipping 399.00 or

b. grubee 50cc 4 stroke clone and bmp drive?

any why?

do you know b.'s costs? 189 +30?, 139 +12?

thanks again!

 

[Happy Valley]

occ

You'll still need a throttle cable, lever and kill switch. 15.50

PM sent

 

[occchopperfl]

happy,
thank you for your input.
very helpful

 

[moondog]

I would pick the BMP kit because I could weld on brackets to rubber mount it. Friction drive can be completely rubber mounted.

I would also weld bearing holders on both sides. It's steel.

Easier for me to mod than the Staton kit. I am not even going to try and weld on the Staton.

I'm seeing it kinda like 5-7HEAVEN. A great kit to modify.

The Robin can run on homemade ethanol fuel and is smooth.

Smooth rubber mounted friction drive on homemade ethanol.

I took my Staton/Mitsubishi off and that is what I am going to do.

P.S. see if BMP will still sell the fab plans.

 

[Happy Valley]

Hey moondog, yeah as I see it, it's a bit of a toss-up, one copied the other so not much difference in them really. Staton does do his own fabbing and machining. The one-way clutch rollers were a great idea IMO but looks like they're gone and I am one who liked channels better when they were fabbed from aluminum, I can weld on it and it's just a lot easier to work if drilling is needed, bit lighter too.
I remember the DIY vids on building your own and then they were taken down, that was before BMP went into business selling kits.

 

[occchopperfl]

Hi Happy and Moondog and All!

I asked the moderator to move my post/thread on friction drive in the rack mount forum to here. Just in case, here it is. (Happy -
btw, i know you loved your staton/subaru 35 cc setup)
just a few more choices to share.

(* - EDITED)
Im still thinking things through about engine and drive.
I want a "plug and play" build, "commuter/ daily driver quality"
(my new donor bike is a huffy cranbrook)

For my second bicycle build, I want to move to a chain drive, or GEBE drive or belt drive rear mount or mid frame mount application.

Choices:

FD Rear Mount - a. Staton
b. BMP
c. Gurbee
d. GEBE

Engine: a. Subaru 35cc 4 stroke * (workshorse @1.6hp)
b. Tanaka 40cc 2 stroke * (workhorse as well, @2 hp)
c. Tecumseh 49cc 2 stroke * (workhorse @2 hp - out of business, lots of parts available?)
d. gurbee 49cc 4 stroke * (2 hp, how reliable? with gerbee rear mount drive)?
e. 49cc chinese 2 stroke honda clone * (2 hp, but how reliable?
http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/49enwimapust.html

A fellow forum member made mention of a staton/subaru deal at 400.00 free ship.

so, what do you think and why?

I value you opinions and thank you in advance for your responses.

Decisions, Decisions...