The reason I didn't response before is because somebody have to work - NO - nobody donate me $200 for nothing
I used 2stroke mixing bottle
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-2-STROKE-...ryZ82248QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I used 20:1 (on few first tanks) 25:1 (after) but I used more than 20-25 because I always put few millilitres extra for health.
Dose is 40(25:1) - 50(20:1) on 1 Litre.
And here I have some extra to read (everybody use 20-25:1 ratio)
Mix fuel 32 to 1 Organic 4 oz 2-stroke oil to one US gallon of regular cheap gas
http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=5481
Would it have something to do with the fact the engine is tight? I think I got the mixture right and its not smoking or anything.. its running 50:1 as per instructions.
20/1 mixture if we must,
http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=6788&highlight=RATIO
different heat ranges, yes...also, gap can affect heat...
WARNING: we've been noticing here in town that going after a hotter spark may be a bad idea: it seems ALL of the pre-mix is burning, not a good thing on a happy-time. cruzin's engine toasted rings/piston/cylinder the other day (upper bushing is fine, go figure) and that's at a 25:1 ratio. while the crank area had plenty of residual oiling, the combustion area was dry as a bone.
http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=5362&highlight=RATIO&page=3
I like to get the 50:1 ratio exact)
recommend 20:1 for breakin and after
can be "leaned up" to 60:1, by putting an extra 1/10 gallon in your gas can
Run a gallon at 75:1, see if I detect any performance changes (and it really does reduce smoke and fumes, because I've used Amsoil on road trips, mixing by the tank.)
We are running at a 20-32:1 mixture ratio.
http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=6766&highlight=RATIO
Hi, My instructions said to run it at 20 to 1 for the first 50 miles I think.
OTE: During Break in,
keep drive chain snug.
After break in, you can allow
it a little slack. Also...Keep
mix ratio at 20:1 and
synthetic oil is not required.
http://thatsdax.com/INSTALL_PAGE_3.html
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after break-in you want 40 2000ml:50ml or 64oz:1.6oz or 1gal:1bottle*
*briggs & stratton easy-mix 2-cycle oil 3.2oz <--for the math-challenged, like me :?
personally, i believe nogoodnic42. i'm on tank #2 starting today (70 miles) & i've switched to 40:1.
i also did 35mph+ for 6 miles on the way home
I ran it at 20 to one for about maybe a tankfull of gas and its a half gallon tank so 100 miles I don't really know exactly. but then I leaned it to 25 to one and then 30 to one on the next two tankfuls
the new consensus seems to be:
20:1 dino oil for break-in (until you feel the rings seat)
25:1 dino or synthetic blend after (for engines with bushings)
my opinion...32:1 is prolly ok with roller-bearings, i'll be trying it as soon as i get the roller-bearing engine back on my bike.
i've tried to contact the seller with no response
i'm fairly certain i'm correct, i haven't heard a thing about (cough!) "80"'s with bearings yet.
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i'm fairly certain i'm correct, i haven't heard a thing about (cough!) "80"'s with bearings yet.
personally, from hard experience, i recommend you use 25:1.
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my opinion, based on more experience than i used to have.
without the debate of what kind.
i break-in any happy-time at 20:1 until the rings sing. after that, again opinion-only...
an engine with bushings needs 25:1 at the least. i have one that's gonna have to stay at 20:1.
bearings? with a good fitting assembly, i think 32:1 is fine.
Just got off the phone with Duane at Dax, he confirmed that on the 65D the cranks are ball bearing and BOTH upper and lower rod is bushing. I was bummed but while talking to him (for near 25min, Cool Dude!) he mentioned of all the engine he has sold and worked with none had ever shown signs of distress on the lower rod bearing (bushing) EXCEPT the ones that had been run too light on their premix ratio. He mentioned 20:1 25:1 to protect that lower rod bushing. I totally agree, thanks Duane! Thanks Butch I appreciate your thoughts as well
mix 25:1 and you will not either.. Solid or roller seem to work great with correct mix
http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=6571&highlight=RATIO&page=3
depends on the ratio you're shooting for...your formula would be 32:1
128 ozs to a gallon divided by desired ratio (32) = 4ozs
1 LITRES + 40-50 ml oil = 1:20-25 RATIO
http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=5970&highlight=RATIO
When it comes to 2 stroke oils, believe it or not, synthetics are not superior. The Mobil oil you asked about has a flash point of 190 deg F which is VERY low. Klotz benol blend oils (80% synthetic w/ 20% degummed castor oil) have a flash point of 450 to 500 deg F.
I am now using Klotz product exclusively and let me tell you, the fact it didn't burn up at high temps saved my engine. I was doing some mountain climbing today and my engine got so hot, the head changed color but it kept on chugging and still runs like new. If I had been running any other kind of oil, I'd be doing a rebuild instead of typing this email.
http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=5185&highlight=RATIO
Run it at 36 to 1 or 40 to 1. Synthetic is good idea. Buy it at Wal-Mart. The hyper expensive stuff is.....really expensive.
i live down here in the desert. is running a 50;1 mix good for it or should i stay around 30;1 - 40;1 ?
if you have a 2 stroke engine, i think any 2 stroke oil will work. you should probably find out what the manufacturer of your engine recommends to be sure of the gas/oil mix ratio. in my manual from thatsdax it said to mix mine at 25:1 during break in. on his website it said 20:1 for break in and after break in. I have read thru other posts in here tho that said some people use different mixes, i have no idea why to be honest. some of these other guys no A LOT more about this stuff than me. I'm just a beginner. lol
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on a new engine, I'd run 25:1 for a few tanks. IMO 40:1 is okay after break in. I run a tank of 50:1 once in a while.
20/1 is just too much oil. That much oil (especially non-synthetic cheap dollars store stuff ) will cause carbon build up and that clogs plugs and exhaust, plus the rings will stick and then the whole thing goes "boom".
The reason your engine was revving and running hot has nothing to do with how much oil you are running. Too much oil is as bad as too little.
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my input: i have 800+ miles on a great-starting & great-running engine.
i use briggs & stratton "easy mix" at 36:1. i mix one gallon of regular gas to one 3.5oz bottle. it is easy to use & i have no complaints.
i use a hotter ngk b6hs gapped at .025
when i replaced the jug-gasket, everything was really clean and moving smoothly, with no looseness or undue wear.
http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=4636&highlight=RATIO
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