Carbide bike lamps still being made!!!!

Discussion in 'Electrical' started by Sgt. Howard, Oct 16, 2010.

  1. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    For real! There's an outfit in India still making carbide bike lamps! http://www.jkdey.com/index.html - copy and paste to get to their site. However, there is no pricing or ordering information on the website- I have sent an inquirey and have yet to get a reply- perhaps translation is an issue, I'm not sure.
    Their product is a nickle-plated brass operation, fairly bare-bones, none of the fancy patterns of the Victorian and Edwardian eras- more BauHaus than anything else, but I suspect about as functional as such an operation can get as these folks also make carbide miner's lamps and saftey lamps. Those of us doing retro and/or BTR might want to look into this and see if these are feasable... or even affordable. I don't understand why they bothered to put these on the internet without price or ordering information unless this is just testing the waters- perhaps if enough of us pester them we can do buisness.
    the Old Sgt.
     

  2. Those are cool...sort of steam punkish. Will be waiting to see if you get a price.
     
  3. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    Images of carbide lamps

    This ought to work- as stated before, rather plain but seems rather sturdy
     

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  4. Stan4d

    Stan4d Banned

    any prices yet?
     
  5. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    Calcium carbide source

    the stuff is actually cheap, but hazmat regs make it pricey! you can get ten pounds in two pound tins for $85, min recommended order... you can buy less, but it would cost the same. That's $8.50 a pound, and one pond lasts quite a while. I need to look into retail regs and where it's legal etc., but here is the link- http://www.karstsports.com/mingradcalca.html - that price includes shipping, and it's 2-5 days delivery. This begins to make sense as a club purchase assuming you have a pack of retro/steampunk/BTR enthusiasts.:detective:
     
  6. Stan4d

    Stan4d Banned

    Price on the lamp itself? Have you got a response yet?
     
  7. Nuttsy

    Nuttsy Member

    Jeezalou! Twice in an hour and a half? The guy just posted this morning.
    Give it a chance, will ya? Like the Indians have nothing else to do on the weekend.
     
  8. Stan4d

    Stan4d Banned

    Sorry, I did not notice that the first post was made this morning......His second seemed to give me a price on the fuel. I thought he misunderstood. Thank you for politely pointing out my mistake.
     
  9. SimpleSimon

    SimpleSimon Active Member

    Hmmm...think I'll contact my friend at Parkawk Industries, and make an indirect inquiry about the firm. Given that his company makes materials handling equipment in India, some of it for mining, he might be able to assist.
     
  10. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    re: lamp prices

    To all-
    I ASSURE you, the INSTANT I find a price on these bad boys, I am posting it! I am also ordering it- my suspicion is that where they are made, they are seen as far more functional and probably cheaper to operate than their electric counterparts... my guess is that they are affordable. While my current rig is a Huffy Cranbrick cruiser, my NEXT machine will be a BTR based on the Worksman Newsboy (a bicycle I would never had known about if not for this website)- and if the first part of the project I purchase is the headlight, so be it! I realise the constraints on product review and why they are in place, but I would like permission to do a review on this once I acquire it... it seems far too important a bit of trivia to pass up. I am familiar with acetyline lamps from other experiances, so I am not striking out blindly here. Meantime- I would ask that anybody who orders from these people once the critical information is out, let them know that the "Old Sgt." sent you-
    Thanks,
    Gregory F. (the Old Sgt.) Howard
     
  11. Stan4d

    Stan4d Banned

    TOP, please start a thread in buy/sell/trade about them......I for one am very interested.
    (if Top does not apply then please forgive me.)
     
  12. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    TOP?!? not quite...

    Took me a moment to realise what you were saying- I was never more than a three-striped E-5 Buck Sergant- but I was a hard-bar in the medical corps! Nearly every E-5 in medcorp is a SPEC-5, softbar. Mine was a command rank. Ranger qualification will do that- however,Top is a referance to the First Sgt. - that's an E-8, three rockers above me. Never got that far. Was never addressed by that title. Just call me Sarge...
    Yes, I will go to buy/sell/trade once I get the particulars- if you figure that's where it belongs. I might consider being the depot for these little beauties if I gotta order a chuckload at a go. I work in Surgery in a little Mom-and-Pop hospital in Tonasket and as we currently have no Surgeon buisness has been a bit on the slow side. If I wind up dealing with merchandise for MBs, things could be worse I suppose... hmm, selling stuff for a hobby/transportation/obsession that is FUN, I think I can live with that... maybe...
    the Old Sgt.
     
  13. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    Jackoofalltrades-my Mama was from Oakdale- do you know any Dillwoods?
     
  14. GearNut

    GearNut Active Member

    I have a reproduction carbide miner's lamp and it is about as bright as a cigarette lighter.
    Mind you is is not a fancy one like the bicycle lamp discussed in this thread, but I have my reservations concerning if the bicycle lamp is bright enough to use while traveling 20 to 30 mph down the road at night. As for a static display item, the bicycle lamp looks awesome!
     
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  15. RedBaronX

    RedBaronX Member

    I've found the occasional carbide lamp on eBay (thought about wiring one up with battery lights, but it's just a little too retro for my bike) and the lamps I've found were for motorcycles... so SOMEONE at some point thought carbides were bright enough for motor vehicles

    if you've got the right reflector and lens, they can put out a good deal of light-- just think of those light prisms used on old ships... I don't know what they are called, but they were like very small sky lights to bring light to below deck

    Checking ebay right now, and you can buy carbide by the pound there... it might be more per pound but you don't have to buy huge amounts...
     
  16. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    As before

    They were also used on cars during this time- of course those were a bigger operation with the gas generator on the running board and the tubes running for-and-aft to headlights/tail-lights (which had to be lit pretty close to simultaneouse to avoid explosions), but apparently electric won out due to conveniance as I have read several contemporary accounts complaining about their dim nature by comparison. A miner's lamp works in a windless, close-to situation without lens or bezel, sometimes without reflectors-it will not compete with these.
    the Old Sgt.
     
  17. GearNut

    GearNut Active Member

    Point taken.
     
  18. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    Aaaaaargh!!!

    Just got word back- the wretched things are no longer in production!!! I am currently trying to negotiate a limited run production, but I'm not sure that will fly... I guess it was too good to be true and all that.
    Even so, the design of the thing being what it is... the thought comes to mind to produce it in PVC as an electric operation that LOOKS like a gas rig, painted to look like brass, copper or nickle... whatcha think?
    the Old Sgt.
     
  19. RedBaronX

    RedBaronX Member

    you might be able to fabricate them out of copper pipe and sheeting-- one site I just googled has diameters up to 4" for pipe...

    Also, even though the place in India isn't making them anymore, there might be retailers out there that they have sold to who have some left...?
     
  20. RedBaronX

    RedBaronX Member

    OR... the ones I was looking at on eBay the other day, the ones with bids were in the $20-30 range (or less) which is probably as cheap as the place in India was probably selling them...
     
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