Drive chain

Discussion in 'Frame Mounted Engines' started by istbenz, Sep 17, 2006.

  1. istbenz

    istbenz Guest

    i was just thinking about my upcoming installation, and the thought occured that i will probably need to remove links from the drive chain in order to make it the proper length. i have worked w/ chain before but i no longer have any of the necessary tools. i believe the kit comes w/ .415 or .081 chain and i'd like to know how to work w/ it. is it bike chain or what? and if it isn't, where do i go about finding and affordable chain breaker? i would really appreciate any input as i am trying to get everything squared away before my kit arrives.
     

  2. Tom

    Tom Active Member

    I would check a bike store or ebay or maybe a hardware store for one. You can't do the installation without one.
     
  3. istbenz

    istbenz Guest

    i found one for bicycle chain on ebay but i didn't know if the setup used bike chain or what. i couldn't really find any info on types of chain and how to work w/ them. so should i go w/ the tool for bike chain?
     
  4. Tom

    Tom Active Member

    I think that most chain breakers are universal. The chain that I got for my bike is different than my regular bicycle chain, but the all the bicycle chain breakers that I have used for it work fine.
     
  5. Cookie

    Cookie Guest

    415 chain

    BENZ:
    the chain is easy you can get a small nail drive put the pin you want to remove on a closepin and tap the pin out I have a small anval that has a hole in it so I just line the pin up with the hole and tap...or you can buy a chain tool at wall mart but you will have to remove the 2 tags in it the chains we use are to big.....you can get a replacement chain at one of those places that sell and install garage door openers the old chains work great and the comapnies usualy throw them away some times they will evern cut the chains to fit the bike :lol:
    One thing I like to do is once I have the chain together and on the bike I will mark the master link after about 30 miles + or - the chain will strech and you can either re adjust the tension wheeel or some times you have to remove a link or 2.

    Cookie
     
  6. i asked the same question to thatsdax.com and he said
    "You do not need a chain breaker. All you do is grind the titties flush with the link and then pop the link off with a screw driver and a hammer..thanks..Enjoy the ride"
     
  7. Tom

    Tom Active Member

    I suppose you could do it that way. I don't get exactly how...
     
  8. Jimbo

    Jimbo Guest

    he's the same guy I bought mine from. Dunno why he ships a motorcycle chain with his kit but I went to a bike shop, bought a single speed bike chain for 10 bucks and used a mini chain tool to break that one. It was about 5000x easier than messing with that motorcycle chain.
     
  9. thatsdax

    thatsdax Guest

    Chain Sizing.

    To remove links from either chain is no big deal. All you have to do is grind the tips smooth with the link and then a hammer and screw driver pop it off. No big deal. For the 081 you can use a bicycle chain breaker and this tool can be had at Walmart for 10 bucks or so . Using the chain breaker for the 081 chain will allow you to add or remove links. Grinding only allows removal of links. Do not come up short either way. Coming up short is not a good thing. Enjoy the ride....Duane at www.thatsdax.com ...Thanks.. :D
     
  10. How do u know which one is the master link ?????
     
  11. Tom

    Tom Active Member

    I think it has a clip on it or something?
     
  12. I bought a chain breaker for $15. Then I tried to open the chain that came with the kit,,, and it broke my chain breaker...(I have used a chain breaker before... but the chain that came with the kit is too tough. I need someone to help me on how to open my chain without a chain breaker.
    It will be appreciated. thnx
     
  13. Also how am I supposed to get the chain throgh the ""mini sprocket"" in the engine. When it doesnt turn??? let me know thnx
     
  14. ringal

    ringal Guest

    Chain installation

    Take out the spark plug and then use the plug spanner to turn the nut on the end of the 10 tooth sprocket and feed through the chain....... You can leave the plug in but you are turning the engine against the compression, easier with the plug out.....

    Regards Al
     
  15. After the chain is installed how much """Drag will there be on pedaling""".

    Will I be able to go long distances without the motor on???? let me know
     
  16. istbenz

    istbenz Guest

    i don't have much additional resistence at all. i think the main thing is having to pedal around with an extra 20+ pounds of metal on your bike. don't worry about it. :D
     
  17. ringal

    ringal Guest

    Chain drag

    If the clutch is adjusted correctly there is a slight drag but you can put up with it for a short distance...... If I had to pedal for more than a mile or so I would remove the chain from the rear wheel sprocket and leave it on the engine sprocket and tie the chain ends to the frame with tape...

    Hey but when you have the engine up and running you will find the only time you want to pedel is if you have to go real slow like in shopping centres and pedestrian foot paths...

    Regards Al
     
  18. liltrabu

    liltrabu Guest

    I bought a chain breaker for under $3 at walmart, the o81 chain is too big so you have to break out the 2 or 4 little tabs inside the part that holds the chain. When you try to screw the pin in the chain wants to turn outward. I just hold the chain in with a pliers and turn the breaker pin. It took me forever to figure that out but thats all you need to do and it works easy.
     
  19. I used a $5 chain breaker and a pair of pliers too. At first it doesn't look like it's going to work, but the pin eventually starts coming out. Glad to know I don't need to keep the motorcycle chain on there.
     
  20. try1897

    try1897 Guest

    I got a brick and put the chain down on it and drove a screwdriver (a good sized one)between the links and with a few good wacks it split and poped apart.
    No big problem. I've done it alot of times and never used or owned a chain tool proper. I've done it with all types and sizes of chain and split the all. Peace to all Tom in WV
     
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