Flexin the goose

Discussion in '4-Stroke Engines' started by nsideus, Apr 5, 2009.

  1. nsideus

    nsideus Guest

    The exhaust that came with kit wouldn't work since I wanted to keep the original crank set up or was it because I am a collector of wide three piece cranks? 1" electrical flex, straping, bolts and heat paint.
     

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  2. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    nsideus,is that electrical flex made from plastic & also it appears u have no muffler,how loud is it?
     
  3. nsideus

    nsideus Guest

    Steel flex. No it isn't loud has a sweet thump. Look at the exhaust on the EZ motorbike same ideal only $0.96 ft
     
  4. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    That's a practical solution Nsideus but how did you get a tight fit around the manifold? Where did you get a manifold?
    Those rear mounted tanks that B-E Com sell might kill 3 birds with one stone.
    1. you get a free fender
    2. you get the tank off the top bar so your knees don't hit it
    3. I've forgotten what the third one is.
    I too have a considerable collection of 3 piece cranks and am always looking for a use for them other than deep sea fishing sinkers.
    With the original crank on the bike do you have to pedal with your legs out wide to avoid the motor?
     
  5. nsideus

    nsideus Guest

    Hey Irish, the flex fits snugly on the pipe I twisted it on tackweld on the end. The manifold is from the pipe that came with the kit cut off about 3" out. Pedal extenders. Have you installed any with the thumb choke? The throttle and choke connection brackets at the engine need to be rebent to keep cables from rubbing and to keep the choke from locking the throttle cable at start.
     

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  6. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    man, I gotta get me some extenders, good solution to the prob :cool2:
     
  7. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    They are a good idea.....i didn't even know u could buy them.
     
  8. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    Crikey Nsideus - I would never have thought of pedal extenders in a month of Sundays yet they are so obvious. Thanks for that info.
    I have built kits that come with that horrible cable choke. What a no-brainer that is. I managed to get a few of the old choke levers from either the Grubee guy in Sydney or from B-E Com - I forget which one. I change the chokes back to the old style because I don't want a thumb operated choke on my already cluttered handlebars and the cable sicks out at right angles and gets in the way of my leg and catches on things. I think I built one bike using it (see pics) but I use the plastic levers now - I have Honda levers off Honda Carbys but they are very tall. You can get away without using that dreadful cable because the choke is spring loaded to the open position and you could hold it closed with your hand for starting and then let go once the motor has started. Not the most convenient method but neither is that stupid cable. If you look closely at the photo you'll see I managed to get the choke cable to clear the throttle cable. It can be done. I think I did some bending like what you describe.
    Don Grube told me the other chokes broke so he came up with the cable. I attach the opicture he sent me. Can you imagine the hamfistedness it takes to break the grey plastic choke lever? Looks like it was broken in freight handling to me.
    Did Don post on this forum to see if people wanted his cable choke? Does Jacqui Onassis wear black much? Is the Pope a protestant?
    Don't get me started. It all adds up to extra work but when I posted a thread on the cable chokes I don't remember if people liked them or not. Maybe everyone loves them except myself.
     

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  9. nsideus

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    Irish, yea I made the connections work with some tweaking of the brackets and every mm I could squeeze from the throttle cable. The choke cable sticking out the side like I am thinking WTF. Definetly a design built and never tried.
    Close up
     

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  10. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    apparently, EZM dealers will be able to supply them soon :cool2:
     
  11. HO-Boy! Great ideas comin' down the pike!

    Hi all! I am glad to see that some of the ideas that EZ Motorbike has been working on since mid 2008 are so well received!

    Flex Exhaust........ The main objective in an exhaust system is a smooth clean flow. To this extent, the Exhaust Flex, that EZ Motorbikes uses has been developed over many long years, especially designed to not cause power-robbing turbulence, nor to affect the total tuned state of the engine (i.e. lean-burn, and "bounce-back" pulses to the valve train). All of these aspects are really important, not only for performance, but for long engine life. This in mind, EZ Motorbike will be using only fully-engineered Exhaust tubing.

    Our intent, is that, the Exhaust flex, selected by EZM, developed over many years of heavy use in a variety of applications, will be an attractive addition to any 4-stroke bike. The special exhaust system for EZM is high quality rust resistant material and will avoid rusting over a long period of time.


    Pedal extenders, this months old project has included East Coast American made prototypes, and West Coast prototypes, and the 3rd shipment is expected in the next couple of days. We believe that our solid steel pedal extenders will be the solution that is so badly needed for the wide-engine community, 2 and 4-strokes alike.

    EZ-Pipes will be available to dealers in a few days, as well as a supply of the custom pedal extenders.

    Some of the Dealers knew about these products, though, we've been so busy that perhaps some had not been made aware of the availability of the products.

    Ride On!

    Mike
     
  12. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    As long as you always remember aesthetics Mike as well as practicality because to me looks will always be important. Remember if the kit is designed to fit on any bike then you could lose the good look. It needs to look good so people can ride one with pride. That HT has good looks but that is all it has so this kit needs both. The 4-stroke kit looks good on most cruisers but really doesn't look at all good on other frame types.
     
  13. walthenry

    walthenry New Member

    I think 4 stroke, HS/Honda, motors look just fine on mountain bikes. Some people view these bikes as practical transpotation, not just a hobby.
    Oldieone
     
  14. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    I've done 28,000 kilometres at last calculation on my bikes (That is the circumference of the planet nearly) and I still think aesthetics are very important.
    I haven't seen an MTB that the 4-stroke looks good on except Sir Jakesus's rear mount and others with similar rigs. They look OK on MTB's but they look great on cruiser frames. If the engines were purpose designed for a bike they would look much better like the old motored bikes of the first half of the last century.
     
  15. walthenry

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  16. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    That's why I said 'nearly' cos the last calculation was at least 1800 kms ago and I don't count the bikes I build for others which I do 250 km min on before I hand them over plus there have been many trips when the contacts of the speedo need cleaning and the mileage goes unrecorded til I wipe them clean so the figure is a conservative one but it would be true to say that it would be the equivalent distance from Sydney to Dublin and half way back. Sydney to Dublin is 22 hrs in a Boeing 747 so it's a lot of riding and it certainly couldn't be described as a hobby Walhenry.
     
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  17. Cruisers, and Cruising

    Hi John, well I have always been very partial to Cruisers, American Made and the older the better! I haven't a lot of use for MTB unless they are converted to "Comfort" status BUT some of our Dealers and people do like them, ALOT!

    We are actually in the process of reworking a cruiser design for a standard bicycle to have availble, AND reworking a very cool set of Vintage dimensions to make a purpose-built bicycle that we believe will fill the needs of many riders in a way that has not been done since the 1950's!

    The MTB's will be able to fend for themselves I'm sure, and most, if not all of what is i the works will be able to fit them also.

    We are actually expecting Nsideus to be joining up with us soon, and he too can begin to put miles on the things we are working on.

    Well, I got to get ready for the Whiz-in, 90 miles in the Saddle, and I'll be riding the Honda-powered EZ Bike it looks like!

    Mike
     
  18. Quenton Guenther

    Quenton Guenther Motored Bikes Sponsor

    Hi everyone,

    So far all my bikes with motors have been vintage style [or reproductions], but after seeing a couple of our kits on mountain bikes, I want to build one myself. Just need to find out what it is like with better suspension & different brake options. I am getting ready to start testing the second generation drive system and who knows what kind of bike it will end up on. And no I am not going to show pictures yet.
    Since this post started about flex pipes, I guess I could show a picture of the EZ pipe. Also a picture of the EZM pedal extensions [both east & west coast versions].

    Have fun,
     

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  19. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    Quenton......what are the pedal extensions made from?
     
  20. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    Regarding the above it's interesting that the first mountain bikes were cruisers used in California. They found them the toughest bikes to adapt for hard riding off-road. Hard to see the provenance of the lineage when you look at a modern dual suspension MTB.
    I love the sound of this MB project above that Mike & Quenton mention.
     
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