for going off topic ???

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by azbill, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    I would like to know if anyone has ever gotten 'infraction points' for going off topic in a thread ???

    I was understanding those to be for swearing, deriding others...that kind of stuff

    this site is supposed to be a knowledge base, not a friggin kiddie school

    Tom's mission statement

    " MotoredBikes.com was created with the vision of creating a community of motorized bicycle enthusiasts, and providing a means to communicate and convey ideas, thoughts and opinions to one another to help spread the word on this alternative mode of transportation."

    it seems that the super-moderator has let the title swell his head and he has forgotten how adults behave

    Dave, I used to think you were a nice dude, but you have changed since we last talked to each other :(:icon_cry:
    you used to be very even handed about things, now you are changing the rules as it suits your fancy.
    Yes, I am talking about any post with anything to do with EZM
     

  2. wanger

    wanger Guest

    its the AMERICAN way stuff every one else:jester:
     
  3. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    I've never gotten any infraction points for going off-topic but i can imagine if someone is consistantly doing it they'll get a subtle warning,then it's up to them if they want to risk more.
    Very few ppl like being told what to do/what not to do,but it's for the common good.Without firm/enforced rules websites quickly degenerate into a little kids slanging match with who can swear the most....result,nothing ever gets done.
     
  4. lordoflightaz

    lordoflightaz Member

    How do I know if I get points? Do I get a PM or Email? I really try to censor myself when I am on this forum.
     
  5. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    I am referring to a post discussing the legalities of shifting gears
    the adults having the conversation have talked to each other by land-line and worked their differences out
    but, apparently, the post was deemed bad enough to award points ???
     
  6. augidog

    augidog Banned

    i got an infraction...like anyone here, i knew the rules, but i broke one. funny thing...i lived.

    i'd think someone with a going business would be best served to just stay out of "borderline" topics...i understand EZM is doing well, so why would y'all wanna keep presenting such an aggressive image?

    and, i could say the same thing about peeps who used to be nice guys.
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2009
  7. Tom

    Tom Active Member

    Thanks, Augie.

    First of all, the rules are clear for anyone to read. We want to make sure that threads stay on-topic to respect the original poster. When people post completely off-topic replies, the board becomes disorganized, it creates work for the moddies (splitting threads), and people get upset.

    7 points for this broken rule is NOTHING. Established members can do it 4 times in a row before they see any banned time. Even if they push their luck and do it a 5th time, they only face a 2-day time-out.

    Second, infractions are delivered anonymously. They come from a "Dummy" user called "Admin", so you have no way of knowing who actually gave the infraction. It could have been any mod/admin who was following simply protocol.
     
  8. Tom

    Tom Active Member

    Third, infraction points themselves are not a form of punishment. Having 7 infraction points under your belt does not restrict how you use the forum. They are simply a convenient way for the hard-working moderators to keep track of who is respecting the forum rules and who is not.
     
  9. Tom

    Tom Active Member

    Dave didn't change any rules; I did.


    Any posts that have to do with vendors of any sort are moderated per the new rules.
     
  10. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    there is no mention of getting points for going off-topic
    hundreds of threads here are like that
    but, if that's how you are doing things now....it is your house and I will stay on topic

    aug, there was no borderline, an opinion was rendered, that's all
    if that is aggressive, I don't see how
    facts are facts

    I am still asking if ANYONE else here has gotten points for going OT

    am I getting points for THAT ?
     
  11. augidog

    augidog Banned

    i'm aware of the incident, i read and can deduce..."bordeline" on whether a vendor should bother himself with a topic about another vendor's product, it wasn't worth it, i think we all see that now. geez...there were other points could have been given, a borderline call...but a mere OT infraction, that was pretty nice of admin i think, and fair imo.

    once yer selling, you should find a way to bite yer tongue a little more than you may be used to. rules here, common sense in real-life.

    remember when we early few struggled against being pushed around & used by certain sellers?

    c'mon, dude, we've never been very popular about being so hard-core, but we get the job done...so how about a lil' love for what you and i AND davo built together?
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2009
  12. Tom

    Tom Active Member

    Hijacking a thread is the sort of behavior that we want to stop. We could have used a different infraction, but like Augie says, a mere OT infraction was being nice.

    I still don't understand why you immediately assume it was SrDavo?
     
  13. Waterfowl

    Waterfowl MBc-Sponsor

    What infraction would be considered "not being nice?"
    What is the real reason he received an infraction. Thats what Bill is asking. Answer the question. Don't just duck the question.
     
  14. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    past experience (recent past) with Dave led to that assumption (very anti-EZM)
    a question was asked regarding legalities, if that is perceived as hijacking...that's your call

    I am done with this argument

    now, to go OT in my own thread...

    if anyone wants a medium T-shirt (litely worn)...e-mail me and I will send it for the cost of shipping
    I no longer feel like advertising, nor do I recommend, this site to people asking me for info
    if no takers...it becomes a rag to clean my bike
     
  15. augidog

    augidog Banned

    now see? that's what i meant about company image.
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2009
  16. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    I am posting this as a member (remember what being a member is?)
    I DO NOT represent myself as the company
    nor have I ever said I did
    if I cannot speak my opinion, as a member, what is this site about ?

    what I say reflects my own personal opinions, asking questions about what I see, is my choice
    Just because I can sell something does not make what I see any different

    I have said nothing dis-respectfull to you aug, I would like to keep it that way

    I did not jump on any of your threads, so, why are you arguing with me

    mostly, I started this thread so others could see how petty it is behind the scenes
    (ignore the man behind the curtain)

    not sure if I will be back, so any comments could be wasted
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2009
  17. ENO

    ENO Member

    Stick around Bill

    ENO (Oz)..Mate, with 3602 posts you have given out a lot of advice, information and help..Youre always buzzin round somewhere helping someone, especially the newbies...As grandpas we are able to ignore the "kids" who play up and reward the ones who are focused and having a good time. Let the boss keep a "Naughty File" and unless it means youre kept in after school lets go out and play on our bikes..They need you more than you need them and some of those silly and inconsistent "rules"..Stick around..Australia needs you..ENO
     
  18. augidog

    augidog Banned

    not jumping only replying

    ok, then...seeing ya go because of this doesn't make sense to those who worked with you. i hope you do believe that i'm happy you have something going.
     
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2009
  19. Tom

    Tom Active Member

    20 Points: Vendor promotion outside Vendor Area

    Look at vendor rule #3:

    Hijacking a competitor's thread and questioning its legality is clearly "Bashing" especially in their own thread!

    Again, as a VENDOR, you have additional responsibilities and rules that you must be very careful to follow. Since all vendors have a vested monetary interested in selling their products, they need to watch what they say very carefully as to make sure they do not allow anyone to misinterpret the meaning of their posts. If there is a subject that cannot be discussed without risking misinterpretation, it is their responsibility as a vendor to avoid that topic.

    Not sure how you consider this to be "ducking the question". Please refer to my previous statements:

     
  20. Waterfowl

    Waterfowl MBc-Sponsor

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