Has anyone here ordered a Power King and liked it?

Discussion in 'Dealer Reviews' started by Stratocaster, May 19, 2007.

  1. Stratocaster

    Stratocaster Guest

    I've mentioned this in another thread, but for me, the "Power King" engine kit is about 50% cheaper for me than the most recommended one, the Dax.

    However, I've recently read disturbing reviews of the PK product.

    But, conversely, these kits are all supposed to be approximately the same, so how different can they be, and in what ways?

    I'm just wondering if anyone was satisfied with the PK kit, enough to recommend me getting it. If the PK kit is lacking in some ways, perhaps I could upgrade various parts?
     

  2. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    I believe they equalize the price by charging large for shipping
    but, if you research sellers, you can make your own decision whether to hope for a good one or order from someone reliable
     
  3. Stratocaster

    Stratocaster Guest

    re

    I'm "researching" by reading from posters on this board. How am I supposed to learn otherwise?

    The Power King doesn't "equalize" on shipping. I added everything up, and it's about 50% cheaper. I just need to know - if their kit stinks, what specifically is inferior about it, because perhaps I can upgrade it myself?
     
  4. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Well...."they" say it's an 80, and it's not even a 70. Other than that, I guess they are pretty much the same. :roll:

    I guess if you are happy buying a 50-60, and you think the price is fair, then by all means, buy one.

    We'll leave the light on for ya'.
     
  5. lotsa_mpg

    lotsa_mpg Guest

    I just received a couple kits from Power King. I haven't installed them yet, but they look reasonably good aside from some marks on one of the fuel tanks. There are some differences versus the Dax kits I bought last fall, and no doubt, the Dax is probably a superior kit overall, but these were considerably cheaper even with the higher shipping and I think they'll be ok. I'll know more in a couple weeks when I get one installed on my brother's bike. One thing that does impress me with the Power king kit is that the instructions seem fairly nicely done. The cylinder studs are definately whimpier than the ones on my Dax engines and although Power King included 2 different clutch levers, neither of them look as well made as the Dax one....but I'm sure they'll work just fine. I just emailed Power King regarding the fuel tank damage and I hope they will compensate me in some manner. I have about 350 miles on my Dax powered bike and have had absolutely no trouble with it...not even a loose bolt, which kinda surprises me given some of the messages I've been reading in this forum. Maybe it's time I went through it and checked it over.

    Pete
     
  6. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    i won't rehash, i'll just summarize: you get what you pay for.

    but, your being in canada seems to hinder getting a decent bottom line.

    just make absolutely certain, in writing before the sale, what exactly you'll be getting for the money. i don't think you should settle for "it's just like a dax" as an answer either.

    refer the prospective seller here and ask for definitive answers.

    ps- i posted a point-by-point comparison in the other topic, let me know if there's anything else i can tell ya.
     
  7. spunout

    spunout Member

    Re: re

    Hey, Strat...i may be able to shed a little light on this. simply.
    Go to eBay, find the sellers with this kit, then read all feedback from the buyers of the kits.
    I dont know of an easier solution.
     
  8. lotsa_mpg

    lotsa_mpg Guest

    Just wanted to update my previous post regarding the damage to the finish on the tank on the kit I received from Power King. I did report it to them a couple days ago...and this morning they got back to me saying that I could either return it and they'd send me another OR they would be willing to just give me a refund of ten bucks if I chose to just live with the damaged tank. I decided to just go for the refund and save the hassle and expense of shipping the tank back. They haven't refunded me yet, but I trust they will when they get around to it....and I think that's fair enough of them. Really, it's not a bad kit...but I think I'm going to pull the cylinders from both kits and see if I can drill out the crankcases and retap the holes to accept larger studs like my Dax engines have. I just don't like the looks of those skinny studs even though they might well be good enough.

    Pete
     
  9. lotsa_mpg

    lotsa_mpg Guest

    Hey Strato...I got your pm and sent a reply...but it's the first time I've had a pm in here and I don't know if my reply sent properly as it does not show up in my sent items box. let me know if you didn't get it.

    Pete
     
  10. Barret

    Barret Guest

    Pete - FYI: it won't show up in your sent items box until the intended receiver reads it. Hope this helps! :)
     
  11. lotsa_mpg

    lotsa_mpg Guest

    Thanks Barret. I appreciate it. Guess, I'll eventually get the hang of the way forums work.

    Pete
     
  12. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    more off-topic...for the "i can turn a wrench, but i can't do a right-click to save my life" crowd (which is most of us) :lol: :lol:

    i post "how to" tips about forums in the "forum help & suggestion box"...good stuff there for forum-newbies :)
     
  13. dr_clabo

    dr_clabo Guest

    Kits that are "cheaper" are not always the best nor cheaper.

    I have cited differences in past postings.

    Suffice it to say, for me at least, I do not wish to save $50 and then turn around and have to spend hours upon hours of engineering and fabricating new or better parts.

    That was the case with one unknown manufacturer kit: Had to buy ($12 !) and fabricate a new clutch handle; the original was useless by design.
    Same applied with the roller / tensioner. It sucked so bad that it posed a safety hazard and new ball bearing type was purchased (more cash - $10).

    For crying out loud, if I value my time at $3/hr. and all I can eat at the snack bar (I still haven't found the snack-bar), then no problem !

    If you value your time at $48 - $36 - $22 - $12 - or even $5 / hr., I simply do not see the savings?

    If you just like to tinker on stuff for free, no problem, however.
    (let me know - I have a whole load of stuff in need of repair)


    Plus the frustration ! Especially on a first build that requires a time consuming learning curve at a time that you are horny to ride!

    That is my 2 cents.

    ~DC~
     
  14. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    well said, again.

    upgrading can surely be more costly than the "savings"...but i do feel that if fairly priced there
    is a market for the lower quality kits.
     
  15. dr_clabo

    dr_clabo Guest

    but i do feel that if fairly priced there
    is a market for the lower quality kits.


    Absolutely - It is called competition and it is what keeps the market price for all units somewhat reasonable for the time being. In that I agree.

    Also, there are people who do not mind "tinkering" and find it a challenge to "put the puzzle together"; especially if it is missing pieces or fabrication of pieces is necessary. They absolutely love the challenge and live their whole life in that manner: Buying substandard equipment and making it work. It is an accomplishment, for them.

    But, my point is that it is prohibitive to piece a jigsaw puzzle together that is missing pieces or more accurately, has the pieces but are not usable and one has to go to Tool Mart and buy a jigsaw and cutout his own pieces from his own purchased materials in order to complete said puzzle.

    Me? If I pay for a kit (puzzle or anything), I want it to go together as described. Otherwise, it is somewhat a false advisement, I think.

    The financial savings? Absolutely None. It cost more, actually! (still cannot find that all-you-can-eat snack-bar)
    The only bargain you might get besides an excessive application of grief, is more fun and enjoyment from the accomplishment of expending labor to engineer and fabricate your own parts.

    ~DC~ :cool:
     
  16. dr_clabo

    dr_clabo Guest

    Please do not misread what I have written.

    All these kits work.
    They ALL require some "tinkering" to get them to work.

    It is just some require "less" tinkering than others.

    It is a personal tolerance thing.
    If someone has a great tolerance to custom fitting parts, then great - They saved $50.

    I am not bad mouthing any one unit or supplier. I was only making a personal experience known to all who can utilize such as a benchmark to judge their own tolerance to various kits available on Fleebay and the Internet.

    I hope that this will help,
    ~DC~

    :smile:
     
  17. turbo/chaos

    turbo/chaos Guest

    well it is a thing to know that i get my engines from jhon up ther in frost back country but so dose roland and god knows who else cheap yes but mind you

    some are great some need work and some just dont work its like that in any thing not every thing is going to be the same i have a guy here in TX

    who has like and i really mean like 5000+mil on his bike never had a problem
    and then i got one starit from the box it had a problem but keep in mind if there is a rating of 1 out of a hundred are bad thats good

    but we dont know what there rating is but it just happens i have five to sell

    here in tx that is not here on the fourm (yes augi i know you are reading)



    but its just luck with these things but mind you i have worked on some king motor ones and let me tell you thoses kits are built to last
     
  18. smitty

    smitty Guest

    Well, I bought a Power King. It is my only experience with such a thing. I had very little trouble setting it up, and the tinkering I do is not out of necessity. I did have to replace the spark plug wire. The price was good compared to others advertised, and I paid no shipping. Service was good. It now has around 500 miles on it. MPG not as good as I expected. over all I give it a thumbs up.
     
  19. Sockmonkey

    Sockmonkey Guest

    Strato

    I don't know much about either kit other than I just received a DAX kit and it seems worth what I paid for it. I have read that his kits are built to his specifications which include two extra holes in the connecting rod (better lubing). And, supposedly the motors also have roller bearings on the rod. That should add HP, mileage and how long the engine lasts.

    A side note... In the 70s I bought a Honda 600 car... Yea it had a 600cc twin cyl motorcycle engine! All the guys I worked with said they had heard that the engines blew up in "_____" (enter any number between 20,000 and 50,000) miles... I ran it up to 88,000 miles and then gave it to a friend who, 10 years later had it up to 150,000 miles... on the same engine!

    How does this relate??? I never drove it over 55mph (about the speed when the engine started to make a knocking noise) and the engine had roller bearings on the crank and rods...
     
  20. Skyliner70cc

    Skyliner70cc Active Member

    My brother-in-law has a Power King engine. Its an ok engine compared to my Dax and I've ridden it a bunch before I got the Dax.

    The clutch lever didn't fit and work as it should have and the chain roller is not bearing. Gas tank was scratched in shipping and throttle cable needed tweaking to work with the new style throttle.

    Any cost savings was wiped out once these parts were replaced.
     
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