Hi =-) I'm still new here, help please. Photos included)))

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by lazylightning@mail.r, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. lazylightning@mail.r

    lazylightning@mail.r Active Member

    Hi!


    I'm still new here =-) It's still not letting me post anything anywhere. Not even in reply to my own first post in this thread. Please help...

    This is my ride in the far forests of Northern Russia - Karelia, this September. Like I said, the bike could pull the 200 lbs. trailer easily, and much more, but the problem is in getting it going with the pedals, and of course, stopping))) As you can see, the trailer wheels cannot support much weight on uneven roads if they are spoked wheels. Better to use some big old wheel barrow wheels and widen the wheel base.
     

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  2. Al.Fisherman

    Al.Fisherman Active Member

    Welcome to the family... Are you sure that you are signed in when trying to post?
     
  3. lazylightning@mail.r

    lazylightning@mail.r Active Member

    Yes, I'm signed in. Well if this post goes up, then I know it's working already =-)
     
  4. lazylightning@mail.r

    lazylightning@mail.r Active Member

    Heh heh heh))) It's working now)))
     
  5. Al.Fisherman

    Al.Fisherman Active Member

    What post? :devilish:
     
  6. lazylightning@mail.r

    lazylightning@mail.r Active Member

  7. james65

    james65 Member

    Seems to me that the bicycle wheels would be better than wheelbarrow wheels. Thier larger diameter would handle rough roads better and should be able to support 100 lbs. each as you will not be traveling at high speed with that much load.
    Seems that the bike should have a shift kit to take advantage of the gearing.
    Welcome aboard comrad!
     
  8. Al.Fisherman

    Al.Fisherman Active Member

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  9. lazylightning@mail.r

    lazylightning@mail.r Active Member

    Yes, the smaller wheel diameter would have been helpful. These roads are so bad though. The main material is sand...lol... and then there is every size stone from pebbles to boulders sticking out of the road. There are lots of little potholes with abrupt walls and deep enough to do damage. Lots of cars and even trucks get bent solid steel rims on that road, probably because they try to do 50 -60 mph when they've been drinking. I saw lots of evidence of this with bent car and truck rims all rusting out and lots of shredded tires along the edges of the road. Alot of broken of studs with nuts still on them could been seen at times.

    Without a load of weight on my bike, I could whizz along pretty quick, dodging potholes and loose stones. If I had been equipped with those 16 inch fatty, flat proof wheelbarrow wheels, I could have trucked along pretty quick and not worried about anything. I was doing about 2 mph when my trailer wheels went curvy. Beside, the picture shows the wheels after I tried straightening them out ;-) One wheel was so bent it wouldnt even turn)))
     
  10. lazylightning@mail.r

    lazylightning@mail.r Active Member

    Hi,

    The bicycle trailer wheels were only 20 inches, pretty good size for a bike trailer. The wheel barrow wheels are 16 inches, fatties with flat proof properties. The very thickness of the tire would serve as a good cushion from the destructive stones in the road. This road had plenty of stones from 2 to 6 inches in diameter, sometimes so well camoflauged laying in that sand that you dont see them in time. There are lots of boulders visible, just barely sticking out of the road. Sometimes these stones are hidden in deep puddles that cover the entire road. It's a rainforest there after all, raining about 70 - 80% of the time in autumn. I can say that the motor really liked those moist foggy evenings and the purr of the motor tempted me to experience high speeds on those old abandoned roads =-) A great adrenaline overdrive dodging disaster second per second)))
    So, when my wheels were done in, I was doing about 2mph going through a puddle. The two boulders that my wheels were squeezed between, were not steep, they were with very slight slopes coming out of the ground, and I'd still swear if I didnt know better that the wheels would have just rolled over them. I studied them after the puddle dried, as I was stranded there for quite a while until I found a nice fellow in the village that was also from Moscow and he agreed to take some of my stuff back for me. Yeah, so what happened was the wheels, with about 200 lbs in the trailer just started following the outline of those two boulders they were between instead of rolling over them.

    The big wheel barrow wheels with solid steel rims are the only way to go for extreme off road. I will admit that the wheels would have to be installed in a way that would allow a kind of portal axle configuration. So using a single steel rod axle would be out. Thats okay though, because it would be easier and better to make the wheels independent from each other on springs for best performance.

    You can see in the photos, my original baggage rack design. After bringing the trailer back from Moscow with me on my return trip and then promptly killing it, I reinstalled the failed baggage rack just to be able to carry something at all. Now I know well that its better not to load the bike but to pull with it. Like I said, I could have done 35mph with that trailer or any other. Even with my 35 tooth rear sprocket and all stock engine, it accelerated quickly and with ease at 200 pound load and might well pull 400. But when you put 50 lbs on that baggage rack and another 50 pounds on your back and the road is sand and stones, things get nasty ;-)
     

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  11. lazylightning@mail.r

    lazylightning@mail.r Active Member

    Here's some food for thought:

    Maybe this ones a little too strong, for military purposes(click on the little thumbnails, you'll see the seperate wheels that might be of use: http://zheleznodorozhniy.olx.ru/if8-zundapp-ks-750-bmw-r-75-iid-120467853

    I would make something similar to this one, it's homemade and going for $200.

    http://chernigov.olx.com.ua/iid-189229799

    This is a do it yourself site with instructions for a bicycle/motorcycle trailer:
    http://www.umeltsi.ru/dacha/158-gruzovojj-pricep-svoimi-rukami..html

    Campers anyone?: http://dizstyle.ru/eshe/blog-lenta-ljubopytnogo/ne-speshu-k-sebe-domoi-milyi-dom-vsegda-so-mnoi.html

    If you believe the listed characteristics, this one is by far the best for it's price. It weighs 33 kg and can carry 270 kg and only costs $250!!! After taking a closer look at the picture, I'd like to see it in person before I make any decisions ;)
    http://www.speedshop.ru/index.php?productID=374

    Here you will see two blue motorcycles with two blue bike trailers. This is the moto-trailer Enot (racoon). It can carry 150kg (officially/transport rules) and was in production in the USSR since the 70's or 80's.
    http://www.dyr4ik.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?p=367212

    This 1993 model Enot is on sale here for $400, second hand of course.
    http://moscow.olx.ru/iid-120950607

    This is the Dnepr 600, maximum cargo of 85 kg....yay!
    http://www.ua.all.biz/g2328/

    This is the PF-02, total weight is 620 kg and the maximum cargo is 500 kg, so I would assume it weighs 120 kg. It is a motorcycle trailer though.
    http://www.ua.all.biz/g847172/

    More campers:
    http://mhm-fest.com/forum/index.php?/topic/504-автомобили/page__st__60

    I think this one needs no explaination)))
    http://radikal.ru/F/i015.radikal.ru/0805/80/120d529e2549.jpg.html

    So, I've come to the conclusion, that I should probably buy a 4x4 and just take my bike with me ;)
     
  12. lazylightning@mail.r

    lazylightning@mail.r Active Member

    By the way. I'm from the US. Born in Tennessee and lived in the suburbs of Chicago most of my young years. I just became involved in friendship projects back in the 80's and ended up over here in Russia. Been married twice to Russian girls and have all three kids here =-) I like to get back to the States sometimes for a visit ;)
     
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