Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by banned_for_life, Apr 8, 2014.

  1. banned_for_life

    banned_for_life New Member

    New around these parts of the interwebz, just stopped in to say hey! I'm here to socialize with like minded individuals, and I ride a 4 stroke.

  2. powerstroke

    powerstroke Member

    banned for life
  3. banned_for_life

    banned_for_life New Member

  4. wheelbender6

    wheelbender6 Well-Known Member

    Welcome to the forum. I hope you can avoid banishment.
  5. Fabian

    Fabian Well-Known Member

    It just so happens that i am also "banned for life"
  6. LR Jerry

    LR Jerry Well-Known Member

    I too prefer 4 strokes.
  7. Fabian

    Fabian Well-Known Member

    I also like 4-strokes, but the problem is that they look like a ghastly & clumsy rototiller engine, and no self respecting person would be seen dead with such a hideous looking engine on their bike.

    The 2-stroke design is much more pleasing on the eye when in a bicycle frame.
  8. sactownie

    sactownie Member

    yea i like them, they can sound allot better then a 2 stroker with the right setup like a mini harley v twin but they are just to damn big for a bike frame because of the extra parts needed to make them run like the valves.
  9. butterbean

    butterbean Well-Known Member

    Some people prefer functionality and reliability over looks. It so happens that I find the look of my bike aesthetically pleasing, but wouldn't care if I didn't. Personally, I think 2 strokes look small and toy-like in a large cruiser frame. A 4 stroke fills out the frame nicely. I built several bikes with 2 strokes myself before switching to a 4 stroke, and for me the reliability just doesn't even compare. Of course, my engine is a flat-head, so that makes a difference with looks. I feel that my bike looks like an older motorcycle, and I like it very much. People say about 2 strokes having less moving parts, but with a shift kit it comes out about the same. My single speed 4 stroke outperforms any of my previous single speed 2 strokes in daily usage. Even my last 2 stroke, with a high comp head and performance exhaust. I don't know if the OP feels the same way or not, but personally I will never go back to the kit engines.
  10. butre

    butre Well-Known Member

    I like the way a 4 stroke sounds better but 2 strokes perform better for a given displacement and are simpler to work on.
  11. jaguar

    jaguar Well-Known Member

    I want to know how the new guy got banned. I got banned from the other forum by showing a moderator he didn't know half as much as he thought he did.
    I'm too addicted to the thrill of a 2 stroke coming on the pipe to ride a 4 stroke.
  12. Fabian

    Fabian Well-Known Member

    I got banned for advocating 25:1 using a barrage of research to prove that higher oil/fuel ratios reduce localised hot spots from excessive bore distortion as well as reducing piston ring wear from the previously said condition, which consequently increases engine power by reducing blow-by, not to mention an improved hydrodynamic gas pressure barrier; despite the fact that with all of the supporting evidence the moderator insisted Optimax used at 100:1 was "good" for your engine and would not have "any" negative effect on engine life or engine power.

    Calling the moderator a small minded peanut for not accepting the research didn't help.
  13. butre

    butre Well-Known Member

    100:1 is ridiculous, I wouldn't subject any engine to that sort of abuse.
  14. 074KU

    074KU Member

    I have read somewhere some bloke was advocating 150:1 on the basis that it is OK to do in some dirt bikes so it must be OK to do to these china girls :ack2:
  15. Fabian

    Fabian Well-Known Member

    On "all" forums, you will have EPA spooks as well as police spooks and intelligence agency spooks quietly sitting in the background gathering information on public opinion, or actively sitting in on forums under a truckload of different aliases; trying to push an agenda or trying to alter public opinion by selectively driving topics to death or simply flooding forums with alias members to change the social dynamic; thereby isolating those people who are capable of critical thought and also capable of doing their own research and separating the :icon_bs: from the truth.

    Anyone advocating 100:1 or 150:1 can be considered a spook because they have no working knowledge of these engines in the field of everyday operation.
  16. butterbean

    butterbean Well-Known Member

    Opti 2 is formulated and designed to be universally mixed at 100:1, regardless of what engine you're putting it in or the manufacturers recommendation. It is designed to exceed all industry standards and manufacturers warranties. That's why it can be mixed at 100:1 universally. I have never used it personally due to it not being readily available locally. If it were, I would have tried it in one of my two strokes back when I still ran them. I have looked at their website and understand how it is formulated and designed to be a universal mix, therefore I don't argue with people that use it. I've been using shell rotella t triple protection diesel oil in my 4 stroke.
  17. 074KU

    074KU Member

    I may try this in my test bed in the near future to see what happens.. if I stop posting suddenly I would take that as a strong indication the stuff is no good :rolleyes7:

    In all seriousness however what makes the stuff so great? another one of these products loaded with engine funking Teflon? (all the talk of the oil being "protective" makes me wary) The only information I can find at a glance seems to suggest it is magic and just works.. I am skeptical of these claims.

    Seems to be another:

    Slick 50
  18. butterbean

    butterbean Well-Known Member

    I'm not a salesman, nor am I getting paid to advocate or explain why opti-2 is or isn't better than any other oil. If you want to use it, go ahead, if you don't, then don't. Not my concern either way. If you google their website, then you'll know everything I do about the stuff.
  19. 074KU

    074KU Member

    Oh I did Google the website. I also had a look about for any independent testing and general consensus of the product.. It is possibly no worse and mostly likely no better than many other 2 stroke oils on the market. Just seems to be a lot of advertising hype that gives this product its "success." Either way 100:1 in these notoriously shonky Chinese engines is begging for trouble.
  20. butterbean

    butterbean Well-Known Member

    As I said, I'm not a salesman, nor am I paid to advocate one way or the other. Use it or don't, not my concern either way.