I finally realized why they call it Crappy Time...

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by macarollo, Oct 9, 2008.

  1. macarollo

    macarollo Guest

    Before I bought my bike I thought this would be a somewhat reliable egine kit.

    Since I have had it, this is what has gone wrong... in order.

    1. Chain tensioner- flew off while riding. (replace with skate board wheel).
    2. Sprocket bolts snapped while tightening (replaced with US bolts).
    3. Chain snapped at quick link (did not use another quick link when I fixed chain).
    4. Muffler baffle shot out of muffler (fixed it by drilling screws in to hold it.)
    5. Fuel line leaked (used zip ties/thread tape to fix).
    6. Idle screw flew out (replaced it with another one).
    7. Clutch lever pivot bolt flew off while riding (replaced with another bolt).
    8. Engine started surging and running bad (took carb apart... I think float fork retaining clip came loose).
    9. Gas tank retaining nut flew off.... gas tank flipped over bar while I was riding it! (replaced nuts)
    10. engine stud broke after I tightened motor mount nuts (broke while riding).

    I have many traveled 500 miles on the bike... 10 things have broke! (I am sure I forgot something)

    I have a 2005 Suzuki SV650S that has 8000 miles on it... absolutely no problems from that.


    The chinese sure build some crappy engines.


    I have started to use locktite EVERYWHERE on this bike.
     

  2. Pablo

    Pablo Motored Bikes Sponsor

    1. Chain tensioner- flew off while riding. (replace with skate board wheel).

    Pure evil. But not really the engine...

    2. Sprocket bolts snapped while tightening (replaced with US bolts).

    Double Pure evil. But not really the engine...

    3. Chain snapped at quick link (did not use another quick link when I fixed chain).

    Triple Pure evil. But not really the engine...


    4. Muffler baffle shot out of muffler (fixed it by drilling screws in to hold it.)

    Pure garbage. Get an expansion chamber.

    5. Fuel line leaked (used zip ties/thread tape to fix).

    Get a real valve, filter and line.

    6. Idle screw flew out (replaced it with another one).

    Operator error.

    7. Clutch lever pivot bolt flew off while riding (replaced with another bolt).

    New one on me. Cool!!

    8. Engine started surging and running bad (took carb apart... I think float fork retaining clip came loose).
    Interesting. So the float adjustment fixed it.

    9. Gas tank retaining nut flew off.... gas tank flipped over bar while I was riding it! (replaced nuts)

    Wow. This had to be operator error unless the nut actually failed. When tightened down, the clamp should ask as a locking device.

    10. engine stud broke after I tightened motor mount nuts (broke while riding).

    Common. For sure get some real studs. This is a real problem.


    "I have a 2005 Suzuki SV650S that has 8000 miles on it... absolutely no problems from that.The chinese sure build some crappy engines."

    Not trying to be a smart ax, but how much did that pup cost new? Even used I see them for $4000-$8000. Really comparing to a bolt on low cost bike engine.....is like comparing an aircraft carrier with an assemble yourself .22 rimfire.
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2008
  3. macarollo

    macarollo Guest

    I bought it for $4000 used a year ago, not exactly sure the new price off the top of my head.

    I know there is a huge price difference. You cannot really compare the two... I was just saying that it is reliable, and this thing is not!

    I don't mind tinkering though... I have learned a lot from my Crappy Time.
     
  4. Sasquatch

    Sasquatch New Member

    6. Idle screw flew out (replaced it with another one).

    Operator error.

    Operator error? Come on Pablo, that sounds like some Chinese funny-business. how should the operator keep thier idle screw in the engine? (im about to go do it as soon as you tell me)

    Thanks to all who have helped me. I'm no mechanic.
     
  5. Pablo

    Pablo Motored Bikes Sponsor

    OK admittedly that was tongue in cheek, and I certainly have heard of it happening before - but in some cases, the idle screw was out too far in the first place. I would offer that for some reason if your idle screw is a bit loose for comfort (mine are always tight) a tiny drop of low strength Loctite on the outer couple threads of the screw might be advisable.
     
  6. HoughMade

    HoughMade Guest

    In the interest of safety, please everyone- use proper spring or screw hose clamps on your fuel lines.

    As for the other stuff- well, let's just say that there are issues.
     
  7. skyl4rk

    skyl4rk Guest

    Crappy time is right.
     
  8. brisbane_boy

    brisbane_boy Member

    thast unlucky, the only thing happen to mine is the chain clip came apart. and thats it.
    but wen i installed the kit i did used zip ties and thread tape for the fuel line.
     
  9. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    A little bit of prevention goes a long way.
     
  10. SirJakesus

    SirJakesus Guest

    Sweet! I have a 2006 SV650s. They handle like a dream and have massive balls for accelerating. It's also over a hundred lbs lighter than my 2000 suzi Katana 600.
    They're not expensive considering what a lot of other motorcycles cost. And like you I've had absolutely no problems with the bike. I have 7500 miles on mine and my chain hasn't even noticeably stretched requiring adjustment. Then again I roll the throttle rather than snapping it because I'm not wild and I don't like repairs... Would like to keep the resale value high on it too of course.
     
  11. HoughMade

    HoughMade Guest

    I hope this doesn't turn into a bash HT thread. Suffice to say, they take work to make work well and more work to keep them running well. That being said, the dollar to smile ratio cannot be beat. My frame mount Honda 4 stroke took work to get right, but at way more than twice the price, is it way more than twice as fun?

    Is a BMW 330i better than a '97 Grand Am? Of course, but both will get you there and carry the same stuff. One is not right and one wrong. the economists call it opportunity cost- i call it- you don't get somethiing for nothing.
     
  12. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    I just want to -- Ride That Thing !!!!

    and that's about what it all boils down to

    there was a time when all that I could have afforded would be a HT
    and back then working on things was half the fun

    then came a time when working on things ----
    the trill was gone as sung by BB King

    and much thanks goes out to the big guy upstairs
    I have been blessed with a little more money today

    making it easier for me to buy a quality engine

    cause deep down inside today all I truly wish to do is

    Ride That Thing Mountainman
     
  13. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    We all know that HTs are not the Cadillac of bike motors.

    But if mine dies tomorrow, I'll be able to order a new one tomorrow evening.
    (Okay, if it caught me at the worst possible time I'd have to spend a few days scraping up the last 80 bucks or so. But that would be rare)

    I think it was Warner, a few posts above, who mentioned cost-fun ratio.
    On that issue, HTs are hands-down the winner.

    And that's priceless.

    They're something like and old Volkswagen Beetle or a Plymouth Valiant; bottom of the barrel, but, oh, so lovable.
     
  14. brendonv

    brendonv Member

    well u got very unlucky, although these happytime arent 100% as there cheap so you have to do your bit while installing to make sure things like wat happened to you doesnt happen. U always gotta check the idle screw, u may of had it out a bit to much and it vibrated out. Chain tensioner falling off could of been due to u not tightening the nuts enough. The chain could of come off because wen installing the chain u put the U Clip the wrong way and when going along it caught something and undid your chain so again could of been user error. Fuel lines sometimes do leak so that isnt ur fault. Sprocket bolts snapping could of been due to over tightening or just **** bolts. All the other nuts and stuff that came out is due to vibrating out. Sometimes in the factory they dont tighten all nuts up enough like ur clutch so u gotta go around the engine and test them. Well hope it all works now, cya!
     
  15. uncle_punk13

    uncle_punk13 Guest

    Please don't put the Valiant and the volkswagen in the same sentance...
    V.W>'s were nicknamed farfrommovin' for a reason...
    LOL!!!:p
     
  16. graucho

    graucho Active Member

    Perfectly said HoughMade.
     
  17. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    No. You must have the old VWs confused with Fiat

    "Finally, I'm Almost There"
     
  18. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    Yup, and so it goes. Then you'll have $300 (or whatever) into it. My riding buddy ended up with 3 HT engines to keep one bike running. I guess that's pretty cheap fun but I'll pass.

    Earlier this summer I bought a Mitsubishi new in box off ebay for a $100 and a bikemotorparts drive for $150. I ride it every day and honestly all I do to it is gas and oil. I look it over actually looking for something to tinker on but it's so **** dependable I end up just cleaning and lubing the bike.
     
  19. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    I'll admit this much; if I could get a good engine, such as a Mitsubishi, and a drive kit for a total of $250.00, I'd definitely consider it.

    But I don't feel a strong urge to do it at the moment. I'm pretty satisfied with what I've got.
     
  20. Stink Bike

    Stink Bike Member

    I spend more time fixing my HT than I do riding it.The steel is like putty.
    Are the Shyhawk motors any better?
     
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