KilroyCD's and RdKryton's EZM project

Discussion in 'Dealer Advertisements' started by KilroyCD, Apr 11, 2009.

  1. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    I received our kit around the same time AZBill got his, but I haven't had a lot of time to work on it so far. First, let me say that the kit is a "Beta Kit", with some pieces that are not production standard. This does not apply in the case of engine and drivetrain, as the engine is a proven, well-known design and the drivetrain is very close to production-spec if not actually production-spec.
    The motor mount is one of the things that is far from being close to production-spec. This is one of the things that each builder is modifying on their own, and the input is all being used to help the company come up with the production standard mount that wil fit a wide variety of frame types.
    The motor mount was a real bugaboo on this project. Jim (RdKryton) developed a modified front and rear mount, but the front mount needed further modification to fit this bike.
    The bike chosen for the project is a 26" Sun Retro Classic Cruiser single speed bike. I've added a Sun springer fork, front caliper brakes and a Whizzer saddle (big butt bucket), as well as a trick Swiss-made side stand / butterfly stand.
    Below are photos of the progress so far. The photos titled Figure 1, 2 and 3 show the first modification to the motor mount. The modified front mount turned out to be too long, and has been subsequently shortened.
    I'll be posting more shots as the bike nears completion.
     

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  2. alberndt

    alberndt New Member

    Kilroy,
    Spent all day working on my "beta" kit, I approached the motor mount a little differently, I took a piece of strap steel and basically made a "Z" shape out of it and u-bolted it to the downtubes, then I attached the mounting plate to the "Z" cross piece. I am building on a 50's schwinn heavy duty. One question, the rubber pieces around your downtubes? What are they or where did you get them, trying to improvise and am not happy with the results.

    alberndt
    nebraska
     
  3. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    Refreshingly honest Kilroy cos i get sick of ppl saying exceedingly nice things about ANY(not necessarily this) beta product,only to find later after u purchase the item there are many bugs yet to be sorted.
    Unless someone is an absolute genius(or fluked it) 1st generation anythings always have bugs,something we have to accept & adjust to.
    The build is looking good man,can't wait it's completion.
     
  4. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    Alberndt (may I call you Al?), the rubber pieces around the down tube and seat tube are cut from an old innertube, and held in place with some masking tape (while fitting the clamps). Jim and I were discussing yet another possible design to the mount, and it would essentially take heavy strap steel and bend it into a "M" shape, with the center of the "M" cradling the tube. This would be held in place by a "U" bolt. If you should try this approach, please let us know how it turns out.
     
  5. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    lookin good dudes !!! :cool2:
    your design is much cleaner than my approach (yuck)
    I tried to make it plain that mine was a beta, and I had to improvise on my install as well
    (also, my chain was too short, something I am still waiting for in the mail...thank god Vinnie got me a piece)
    I WILL say though, I asked Quenton about a clutch spring that was easier to pull, and he mailed it right away and it is a lot easier to dis-engage:cool2:
    (thank you, Quenton:))
     
  6. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    Fetor, this is why the kits aren't out for general sale yet, as EZM wants to make sure everything is as good as it can get. To that end, the kits are being supplied with mounts from other commercially available kits (no, these mounts in the Beta kits aren't EZM-designed) with the idea of having those who are building these Beta bikes (call them prototypes if you will) send their feedback and ideas to EZM, and these will be incorporated into the production mount. I'm excited to be in on this, and my experiences in building this with the modified mount just might have an effect on the design of the production mount.
    By the way, thanks for the kind words on the bike.
     
  7. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    Bill, we've already incorporated the lighter spring on ours. The one on Quenton's prototype is "finger-light", and ours should be that way too.
     
  8. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    Bill, your approach doesn't look bad at all, and I think your bike looks great! You did make it clear that you were improvising on this Beta kit, and until the production mount comes out I'm sure just about everyone with Beta kits will be tweaking and modifying to get the right fit. That is the method behind the madnes; to collect information so the company gets everything right before the kit's general release.
     
  9. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    Kilroy....Understood,the correct way.
     
  10. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    just an update...my chain came in the mail today :)

    thanks EZM !:cool2:
     
  11. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    Glad to hear that, Bill. I'm hoping to get our bike finished this Wednesday, or at least as close to finished as possible. I still need to source a 5.5" crank and then everything will be hunky-dory. I'd rather source a new one than rob it from a kid's bike I have in the garage. That crank is pretty rusty.
    I have off from work on Wednesday, and (besides having to take my dog to the vet in the morning) I'll be able to spend a lot of time bringing this project to completion (I hope).
     
  12. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    I was lucky with my crank (not a lot of rust here in the desert !!!)
     
  13. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    My progress so far

    To look at the photos, you wouldn't guess that much was accomplished today. But I did get some stuff done, despite having a pulled muscle in my lower back.
    I swapped out the 6.5" crank for a 5.5" one, connected the throttle and clutch cables, mounted the fuel tank (it was just sitting loosely on the frame for the last photos) and hooked up the fuel line.
    The chain needs to be shortened as it's about eight inches too long (Bill, it looks like I got your missing bit). I need to connect the kill switch, shorten and mount the chain, cut the fender for the chain to clear, paint the housing black and it'll be ready to roll.
    Here are pics of today's progress. In the first one, my "foreman" just finished inspecting the work and the second photo is of the bike so far. The third shot is a close up of the mount.
     

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  14. uncle_punk13

    uncle_punk13 Guest

    Awesome guys!!! I'm really diggin' on watching everyone's different approaches on these...
     
  15. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    with the gearbox stabilizing bolt, your mount should do the trick just right :)
    painting the cover does a lot for the look (I painted inside and out, you can see the inside from left side of bike :cool2:)
     
  16. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    Got a little more work done on it this evening. I hooked up the kill switch and installed the drivetrain stabilizing mount. Tomorrow I plan to take care of the chain and the exhaust. Then I'll paint the cover, and with any luck I'll be riding it this weekend!
     
  17. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    The "Bluebird" is about to "fly"

    Sunday is the day. Jim and I got a little work done on the bike this evening. Specifically, we got the fender cut for the chain, the flex pipe exhaust fitted and the cover painted. I also had to readjust the cone nuts on the rear wheel, as though all the work being done I managed to end up with around 3/16" side to side play. That's all rectified. Sunday the drive chain will be fitted, the front brake adjusted, oil and gas added and, as Jackie Gleason would say, "Awaaay we go!" :grin5::grin5::grin5:
     

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  18. jbcruisin

    jbcruisin Member

    That thing's lookin good. If your tank was blue your bike would almost be identical to mine. I like the way you mounted your seat post gear box support. I might try that.
     
  19. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    Better Jackie Gleason than Oliver Hardy........."here's another fine mess you've gotten us both into" :grin5:
     
  20. mabman

    mabman Member

    Using a tensioner mount for the rear gearbox mount is sheer brilliance. Looking really good and have fun today riding it!
     
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