Leaking Tickler

Discussion in '2-Stroke Engines' started by PBStrother, Jun 26, 2008.

  1. PBStrother

    PBStrother New Member

    So I put together a kit on a Murray bike and it works well, I've buzzed around and worked out the idiosyncrasies.

    I delivered it to my daughter yesterday. There is now a puddle under the bike, a leak, from tickler I think, (which it never did before) I never needed the tickler to start it. She's about 50 miles away. Is there something she can do to close the tickler or otherwise solve the problem?
     

  2. srdavo

    srdavo Active Member

    first off, you need to turn the gas off at the valve when you are not riding.

    sounds to me like the needlevalve (in the carb) may be stuck.....or the float doesn't float anymore. (I've seen both problems)
    with the tickler being on top of the carb bowl, the only way fuel should come from there is if the carb is over filling.

    easy fix.
    here's how the carb looks on the inside.
    http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=4854&highlight=magic+carb
     
  3. PBStrother

    PBStrother New Member

    The fuel shut off is shut off, I checked when I left last night and daughter checked today when we talked.
    The story on this one is we bought it from a Harley guy who put it together. I presumed all Harley guys were gear heads. He was not. The bike was an uncoordinated collection of parts. So with the help of this group I got it running and running well. I took the carb apart and got it back together properly. I got it wired up properly.

    So for some reason its leaking, from what I think is the tickler. My thought is that the tickler is a screw that can be screwed in and rendered harmless. Is that so? The bike is way over in St Paul (one needs to be from Minnesota to realize what that means if your in the Minneapolis side of the river). Anyway I need a long distance fix for the problem.
     
  4. PBStrother

    PBStrother New Member

    If its a needle valve would a couple of twists on the throttle grip maybe take care of it?
     
  5. The tickler is not a screw is is just a rod that when is pushed down pushes the float down and allows more fuel to flow into the carby. I agree with Dave, your float is most likely stuck, misadjusted, or filled with gas. The fuel should not come up to the level of the tickler....
     
  6. ifranc

    ifranc New Member

    Hi
    Please before you do anything close the fuel and opend the carb,turn it upsidedown. the problem may be the carb is so full that is Leaking
     
  7. Nope, you need to take the carby apart and see if anything is in the needle valve seat........
     
  8. i have a leaky carb and its looks like my float ,the float has gas inside gas
     
  9. Heard about 3 or 4 leaking floats in the last week...
     
  10. jared3377

    jared3377 Member

    How I fixed my leaky tickler...

    I had this problem with mine, and it cost me $.07 to fix by getting a screw from my local hardware store. I've heard many times on this site that the tickler is basically worthless :shock:.

    IF it is a leaky tickler, it is an easy fix (again, IF it is a leaky tickler). Here is what I had to do to mine (thanks to the advice of wayde) :cool::

    1. Take carby off, take the bowl off, and find the back of the tickler.
    2. With a needlenose pliers, remove the cotter pin.
    3. Then, remove the tickler (from the outside of the carby).
    3. Get a 1/2-inch woodscrew (I used a size #8) and screw it into the hole to plug it.

    See picture attached, and good luck! :cool::
     

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    Last edited: Jun 26, 2008
  11. srdavo

    srdavo Active Member

    fuel should not flow out the tickler.....unless your carb is not even close to being level.
    the tickler is above the bowl.
    the needle valve shuts off the flow of fuel, in the bowl. (the float pushes the valve closed.)
    fuel should go no higher than the top of the float. (the float level can be adjusted)
    plugging the tickler off does not solve the problem....that fuel has to go somewhere....either out the air cleaner, or inside the engine block.

    check your needle valve & float.
     
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2008
  12. PBStrother

    PBStrother New Member

    It continues, my note to my daughter:

    Julie,

    So to fix the terrible leaking carby problem, I assumed a crudded up carby:

    Your bike leaked like crazy in our garage after picked it up from your place.

    All right, after an exercise in disassembly and reassembly, the carb is clean, sparkling like new. Took it all apart, in 60-70 pieces. Polished them all, ran solvent and washed them all. Blew air through all orifices. Got the air filter clean, everything. Reassembled it, put it back on the bike.

    I put the new fuel filter on the line. So I ran the bike up and down the driveway with Anna the dog biting the tires. Runs on full choke but kind of half heartedly. So after an hour or so of messing around of sputtering I stopped. The fuel line is leaking a little at the fuel line connection at the carb. (What if that was the whole real leak and this reassembly was all irrelevant...?). So I cranked on the hose clamp. Is that still a leak? Squirt squirt with Mom's darkroom aircan to check for fluids. I think its stopped.

    So I think now that new problem is the new fuel filter, restricting gas to the carby. The gas lays visibly partly half full in the filter but I think it is missing in the lower fuel line, (it's hard to tell if the fuel lines are empty or full). The bike is sitting in the garage with a towel under it (check for leaks). If it still won't run tomorrow I'll pull the fuel filter and replace the fuel line without one.

    It may be that a loose hose clamp at the base of the fuel line at the carb was the culprit and that an uninterrupted fuel line is the key to buzzing.

    So my only concern is that the summer marches on while my wee feeble brain sorts this out but you have no bike.


    Pa
     
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