Crashes Life after traumatic brain injury...SO YA DON'T WEAR A HELMET?!?!

Discussion in 'Travelling, Commuting & Safety' started by jackofalltrades, Jun 25, 2011.

  1. Dirt Rag Magazine has an excellent story...SO READ IT AND WEAR YOUR HELMET (or shut up!)!
    http://www.dirtragmag.com/webrag/life-traumatic-brain-injury
    "...A woman then came in to remove the bandages from my head, clean it, and put staples in. The moment she started flushing the wound I went into an immediate sweat. I've had some nasty, bloody wounds before and all of them had a certain amount of pain associated with them, but this was a whole new level of pain. The pain I felt while just having the wound on my head flushed was the first pain I'd ever experienced that I would define as excruciating. It was the first time I experienced a pain so intense that it made me sick to my stomach. I was then told that she was going to put the staples in, and that since I had a head wound, they could not give me a local to numb me." :ack2:
    "About three months ago the kids and I were in the truck and had just pulled into the cul-de-sac. My neighbor was outside and threw his hand up. I stopped, we exchanged hellos, and he asked what we had been up to. I was blank-I couldn't answer. ...I spent an entire day with my kids and had no recollection of any of it. None."
     
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  2. jaguar

    jaguar Well-Known Member

    Yes that's bad but how many people have been injured because they were restricted by sight and hearing from wearing a helmet?
    There's two sides to every coin.
     
  3. Please back up your statement with facts from scientific studies. Sorry,but your statement does not hold up. Helmets are designed to not limit view (unless you are still wearing a 1970's era Bell Star (180). Restricting view can be said about wearing glasses too. As for hearing...well a beanie helmet does not cover the ears, and most helmets (including full face styles) do not reduce the Db's by much. I think a beanie style would be adequate for the speeds attained by most (legal) motored bicycles. It's your choice to wear or not to wear and to suffer (or not) the consequences of your decisions.
     
  4. Stan4d

    Stan4d Banned

    I disagree......If you change that to how many people are injured by not selecting a helmet properly, then I might be on your side. Yes some helmets are to restrictive on vision and hearing, but not all. It is everyones responsibility to choose a helmet that is safest for them. What I put on my melon, might not be good for you and vice versa.
     
  5. I also want to add...Why should the taxpayers (I see Jaguar is from Ecuador) shell out their hard earned cash on injuries to someone that participates in an activity and is not smart enough to wear the necessary protective gear...(same goes with tobacco users).
     
  6. JJ 75d

    JJ 75d New Member

    July 27th 1982 half mile flattrack race. Spent the next 7 days in a coma , the next 21 in and out of a coma. Still live with it today. Wearing the best Bell Star money could buy. If i was'nt would not be here now. Your choice, make it wisely....
     
  7. loquin

    loquin Active Member

    Yeah... my wife worked in a head trauma long-term care facility for a couple of years after she graduated from college. A brain injury can change who you are, not just what you remember... And the worst part is, she said that many of these folks remember who they used to be, and are upset that they can't be that way again.
     
  8. SimpleSimon

    SimpleSimon Active Member

    It's a strange thing, really.

    I've known hundreds of bicyclists and/or motorcyclists in my lifetime, and of that number there have been at least three dozen who suffered serious head injuries in a crash.

    NOT ONE OF THE 3 DOZEN FAILS TO DON A HELMET EVERY TIME THEY RIDE.

    Most of them were anti-helmet laws before their crash, most were not wearing a helmet when they crashed. Based on that lifetime of experience I drilled into my kids the importance of a helmet, and my youngest son is alive and intact because he was wearing a helmet - when he hit and killed a yearling mule deer buck at 60 mph on a bicycle at the bottom of a long hill.

    So, to each their own choice. Just don't show up in an emergency room with a split melon from crashing sans helmet and expect any sympathy.
     
  9. Turtle Tedd

    Turtle Tedd Member

    Yea..Helmets are a good idea..I always wore one when racing motorcycles in the dirt or riding on the street..Bought a BMX helmet to wear when I built my motorbike..I started going for rides late in the afternoon when the sun is low and pretty blinding, even with the darkest prescription sunglasses I could get..I started wearing a brimmed cotton Boonie hat to keep the sun out of my eyes...Big mistake..crash , bang...off to the Trauma Unit I go in the meat wagon..Traumatic Brain Injury..in coma for almost a month..Don't remember anything at all...and now after 1 1/2 year of recuperation , I still have issues.... well thats enough..only took me about an hour to type that..
     
  10. Stan4d

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  11. RedBaronX

    RedBaronX Member

    a neighbor girl back in high school who sustained head/neck trauma (gymnastics, not helmet-less riding) said that was the hardest part, remembering that you used to be someone different.

    Yes, it is still possible to sustain fatal injuries while wearing a helmet, but if it fits properly, the helmet is not going to CAUSE accidents.
     
  12. MikeJ

    MikeJ Member

    Like everyone here who has responded in favor of wearing a helmet, I get aggravated seeing anyone on two wheels in traffic with total disregard for what a simple accident can do to them. I see guys, young and old, on over-powered motorcycles; no helmet. More frequently, younger women on the Vespa-type scooters, with as much skin exposed as is legal and no helmet an sometimes no eye gear in the high speed lanes.

    If I could preach to the younger people:
    In an accident, the two-wheel rider loses. Physical injury disrupts school. Injury disrupts your job. A young person is worth millions of dollars of potential income. A brain injury zeros that out; now you could be a liability upon parents and society. I have seen it.

    How many sports do you see that mandate a helmet in controlled sports? You can rattle off half a dozen in under ten seconds. And you want to go head bare into traffic that is violent and uncivil with two-ton missiles guided by the near-blind, distracted, drugged, and drunk dolts. And you probably wear dark or black clothes so that the drivers have a hard time spotting you as they yak on their cell phones.

    I may look like a lemon dork when I ride, but drivers see me; they move into the next lane if they can.

    Enough of me on my soapbox (again). Let me paraphrase an observation by someone who pointed out to me, "There are old riders, there are foolish riders; there are no old, foolish riders."
     
  13. RedBaronX

    RedBaronX Member

    and we all heard about the man who, during a rally protesting mandatory helmet laws within the last week, was in a crash DURING the rally and died from his head injuries?

    Man dies from head injuries... ABC News

    (oh, and notice the idiot in the footage wearing shorts and loosely-laced sneakers... DUH!)
     
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  14. Chalo

    Chalo Member

    Don't fool yourself

    Life can be dangerous, but bicycling is not worse than many other things we do that we'd never consider wearing a helmet for.

    For every single person in the USA who dies on a bicycle, fifty die in their cars. The ratios of head injuries to other injuries are similar. When is the last time you saw a person wearing a helmet to drive a car, outside of a race?

    Working from a ladder or showering in a clawfoot tub puts you at more risk of head injury, per time of exposure, than riding a bicycle. Do you wear a helmet for those things?

    Walking along a public street is three times more lethal than riding a bike along the same street. Where are the helmeted pedestrians?

    Believing that a helmet is essential for cycling, but not for other things that are just as risky, is oblivious. Yes, you can fall and hit your head while cycling, and maybe, just maybe, a helmet can prevent head trauma in that case. But the same goes for many other activities that most people would consider it insane to wear a helmet for!

    We have cycle helmets because they make an easy buck for helmet manufacturers and retailers, plus those organizations that get paid to promote them. So wear a helmet if it suits you, but don't be a tool of folks who have only their own interests at heart. And be sure to wear it when you go up on a ladder, or go out walking, because you need it even more at those times.
     
  15. RedBaronX

    RedBaronX Member

    Car speeds are significantly higher, plus there are more than 50 times the number of cars than there are bicycles. If you were to calculate the ratio in MILES, the spread would be even bigger.

    The automobile equivalent is to wear one's seatbelt. If you wear your seatbelt, you greatly reduce your risk of head injury from hitting the steering wheel in a front end crash or hitting the roof in a roll-over... or from getting thrown from the car.

    While you might hit your head and get a concussion slipping in the tub, you're not going 25-30 MPH (or more). Head trauma is possible, but the potential severity is significantly less.

    what are the risks you face while walking? Getting hit by a runaway car? Getting shot in a drive-by? Getting hit by someone illegally riding a bicycle on the sidewalk? Injuries from these sorts of accidents are more likely to be body injuries anyway.

    It's not even "how likely is a head injury", it's a matter of how potentially severe it would be within circumstances.

    I bet the people whose lives were saved by wearing a helmet don't feel like tools.
     
  16. NewOrleansFlyer

    NewOrleansFlyer New Member

    Thanks for sharing your stories. There are lots of things you can do on a MotoredBike that can give you the thrill of a lifetime. Not wearing a helmet is something that can make all those memories disappear. As some say "Choose wisely".
     
  17. I'm glad my post has created serious discussion...my story...not very exciting. I was 10 or 11 riding my Hawthorn cruiser (wish I still had that bike) when I rolled over a small rock and went down. I vaguely remember some man helping me home and my mom coming home and asking why I was crying. I don't remember much but the doctor said I had a concussion. I fully recovered...that was back in the 60's when helmets were never even considered for bicycles. Later on in the 70's I was dirt riding on a small motorcycle and I was wearing a Bell Star (180) when I went down at a slow speed. The helmet literally saved my neck as there was a sharp piece of metal sticking out of the ground and and it would have sliced the artery in my neck if I had not been wearing my helmet. I still have that helmet with the 4" gouge in it.
     
  18. BentTooner

    BentTooner Member

    Helmet on a MB is a very good idea with great potential upside and very little downside.

    The only problem I can imagine with wearing a helmet is that the rider might feel safer and be willing to go faster or drive riskier than he would without one.

    I recently read a poll on this site about the 'ideal' safe top speed for MB. I was surprised at how many people feel 30 MPH (or even faster) is safe on a MB.

    To me, a crash on a bicycle at 30+ MPH is just too risky. I can go 28 MPH top speed but I intentionally ride about 15-18 MPH most of the time and remind myself that I'm not in a race; I'm just enjoying the freedom and scenery from the comfort of my recumbent MB.
     
  19. RedBaronX

    RedBaronX Member

    For some, wearing a helmet might give you a false sense of security and a sense of invulnerability, but for others, a helmet will make you ride safer because you are feeling more responsible than others who are not wearing helmets.

    Just like with drivers' attitudes to cyclists wearing helmets-- some say that a cyclist with a helmet gets more respect from cagers, others think that a cyclist with a helmet is "ignored" by drivers because the drivers assume the rider is less likely to do something stupid... (with "ignored" meaning "not seen", which leads to more accidents, not just injuries...)

    I'd rather wear gear, drive legally and responsibly, and assume the cars can't see me...
     
  20. Chalo

    Chalo Member

    A bicycle helmet is designed to partially mitigate (that is, to make survivable) a 14mph impact (velocity of a freefall from 6 feet; basically the speed your head hits if you collapse from a standing position). That is what the tests are designed to mimic, and that's all bicycle helmets are certified to do for you.

    Do not ascribe magical powers to bicycle helmets! And do not believe cycling is more dangerous than other common activities you don't wear a helmet for, because there are data that show otherwise. Failure Analysis Associates and others compile this data, some digests of which are available here and there on the web. You'd be surprised how many everyday activities are more lethal than bicycling.

    Be skeptical of the hype surrounding helmets, especially bicycle helmets. Ask yourself why, now that half of all cyclists wear them, just as many cyclists per capita die in accidents as back when zero percent of cyclists wore them. It's a fact.

    Chalo
     
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