Manic Mechanic sprocket adapter

Discussion in 'Spare Parts, Tools & Product Developement' started by Canon, Aug 20, 2011.

  1. Canon

    Canon New Member

    Will this adapter
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    http://store.yahoo.com/yhst-10337746512064/picycbspad.html
    fit this hub?
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    http://www.bikepartsusa.com/bikeparts/category.cgi?item=01-82994
    If not am I screwed or is there some kind of shim I could put in between the adapter and hub?
     

  2. 1) If you have ordered your adapter from the company in your first link...you have ordered a pirated copy of our Shimano CB-110 coaster brake adapter. It will not work with the wheel that is shown in your second link. Manic Mechanic "IS" the originator of this sprocket adapter design. The cylinder heads that you see on their site are also copies of our original design. An infringement of copyright laws, suit, will soon put an end to this! Fortunately there is a federal, law enforcement division dedicated to blatant copyright infringement.

    2) If the Pirates will not allow you to return your adapter for a refund...don't worry...it's a common size and you will have no trouble selling it.

    3) Have a look at our website...www.mmbikeparts.com...we offer custom sized adapters that will fit your hub perfectly.

    4) We actually answer our phone...and promptly return calls when a call waiting situation happens.

    Jim
    Manic Mechanic
     
  3. Canon

    Canon New Member

    They don't accept refunds so I need to sell it (ebay?). Once the wheel I ordered comes in I will be sure to order an adapter from you guys. What do the new cylinder heads do?
     
  4. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    ARRR!!! Pirate be good folks fer trade, they be! Bought me adapter from them and still can't wear it out! Great folk, them Piratecycle Mateys! Sport their skull & Crossbones on me clutchplate I do! As fer them whats' copyin' their booty... KEELHAUL THEM, says I!!! MAROON THE ROGUES IN DETROIT!!! MAKE THEM WALK THE PLANK... INTO THE MUNICIPAL WATER TREATMENT PLANT!!!... OK... I'll take my meds and I'll be fine... until the next time... HARHARHARHARHAR!!!!
    the Old (and somewhat insane) Sgt.
     
  5. ebay, or...Contact Venicemotorbikes...he'll buy it...he's a big supporter of Pirates who steal the designs, and the hard work, of others.

    Canon: I'm sorry that you thought that you were getting a genuine Manic Mechanic adapter with the service and product satisfaction that comes with buying from us, or one of our distributors...that was part of the Pirates program...to create confusion in the market by copying our products instead of designing their own.

    We guarantee our products and service...if you place an order, and we can't help...your money is cheerfully refunded!

    Jim
    Manic Mechanic
     
  6. Sarg,

    Do your homework!

    Jim
    Manic Mechanic
     
  7. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    Wait a mo- copyright? I can copyright my design? I knew better than to worry about a patent, but a copyright might be the ticket here... and understand, Jim- I came up with my design before I bought from Piratecycle, only I screwed up the prototype bad enough to loose intrest for a bit. Mine is a three-piece designed to use the HT sprocket nine hole- concentricity is a given. Six 5/16" bolts hold it together. Bigger footprint as well.
    the Old Sgt.
     
  8. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    OOPS! yes, I just noticed that you and Pirate are seperate entities...
     
  9. Yes...You can copyright your design!

    Jim
     
  10. Yes we are separate entities...I am the originator of the designs. Ask anyone...they will tell you the same thing!

    Jim
     
  11. Their copies of my parts were nothing but an attempt to confuse the new guys into buying...everyone knows that the Manic Mechanic adapters work...everyone knows that Pirate Cycles was a distributor of our products...the perfect plan...copy our stuff and ride the Manic Mechanic gravy train...but not for long!

    Jim
     
  12. impression

    impression Member

    Sucks that this has happened :(

    If you're looking for an Australian Distributor Rock Solid is good :D and i'm sure you know who i'm tlaking about.

    ( if shipping kills the price perhaps you can organise a royalty or a license to manufacture and distribute ? )

    I have nothing but praise for your designs and hard work. The motor-bicycling community wouldn't have the "high end" stuff it has now without your input :)
     
  13. Sgt. Howard

    Sgt. Howard Member

    Yea, your unit still hangs tough and I am not very kind to it. I ride a LOT. Solid as stone... I still think keelhauling is a good idea, BTW...
    Just went over some final details with Brewster Manufacturing in Washington State- they are doing the set-up as we speak. Slight re-design, taking advantage of C-N-C's capacity over me doing crank-and-dial with lathe and mill (Allowed for heavier bolts holding it together). 'Fraid to say, you've got competition now... but then you've had that before, so no big trick right? We'll see where it goes from here.
    the Old Sgt.
     
  14. Thank you Impression!

    Tony is a great guy! We did do a bit of business, but as you noted...the shipping was cost prohibitive.

    Single items don't cause a problem...once the dollar amount escalates for a quantity...things get sticky.

    Jim
     
  15. loquin

    loquin Active Member

    The copyright on the design will 'theoretically' prevent others from using the design documents (blueprints, etc.) that you've copyrighted to use in building their product, unless they can prove that your documents had no effect on the development of their design documents.

    In the software world, copyrights are often effective for this.

    In order to 'defeat' a software copyright, the offending company would have to prove in court that their design team was not impacted in any way by viewing the copyrighted design. This was often accomplished by the company having two separate entities at work. The first entity would create a set of low-level specifications from the copyrighted software. The other company would often farm this task out to a separate, isolated organization, or even to a third party. The only information provided to the software writers is that specification. Then, the programming team would create a product from scratch, based on the specifications, and only on the specifications.

    A copyright does protect your work, but if the other company did produce a virtually identical product, with no prior knowledge of your work, they did not violate any copyright laws.

    With a patent, on the other hand, it doesn't matter how the other company arrived at their design - if it violates your patent, they have broken patent law, and they can be sued for damages.
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2011
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