My Latest Bikes

Discussion in 'Photos & Bicycle Builds' started by Irish John, Apr 20, 2008.

  1. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

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    PICT0004.jpg Here are my latest Bikes. A giant Elwood 21" frame with 700C wheels with a HT70cc. This is the most comfortable bike I've ever built. The larger wheels make such a difference to ride quality and the high bars and low saddle are so comfy to ride withj.
    The Schwinn Alloy 7 had the HT 70cc for 2 weeks before I put the 4 stroke in.
    The HT 70 was that rare thing - a good motor - just the luck of the draw. But the 4 stroke is lovely too except on hills.

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  2. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    Their all extremely clean & well presented Irish,kinda puts mine to shame......great job there man.
  3. graucho

    graucho Active Member

    Wow! Can I live with you and be your parking attendant? Great line up of bikes. I think you have as much fun building, as you do riding. Me to...
  4. aussieboy

    aussieboy Member

    where did you get the 4 stroke from here or overseas

  5. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    I got it from in Bozeman, Montana. The ones coming here aren't in quite yet and are the ones with the gearbox that only fit the HuangShen motor. The Grubee fits both the Huangshen & thr Honda GXH50.
  6. aussieboy

    aussieboy Member

    yer zbox will have the huangshen with non- honda gearbox in six weeks as i emailed them they said around $450aud and mmbimports have huangshen and honda kits listed this weekend i was told



    lets roll
  7. Irish John

    Irish John Guest


    MMBIMPORTS have been telling people they will have those kits next week since early last year. I'd take everything they say with a grain of salt.
    It's certainly cheaper to get the Honda motor from the US - they aren't the captive market we are and their prices really show how badly ripped off we are down here on this island.
  8. aussieboy

    aussieboy Member

    yer welll mmbimports was where i got my first engine and at that time he (six months ago ) he told me the date when they arrive in australia 23/4/2008 2 days ago and i emmailed him to she whenn they would be avaliable to buy he said this weekend let see if he lives up to it

    yer the honda engines are $600 +aud here why not support the local buyers not rip them off, i can get a new honda gxh50 out of usa for less than $500 aud


    lets roll
  9. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    In Oz the Honda gxh QA 50 is Aus$500 - $525
    In the US at Small Engine Warehouse they are US$210. The air freight is $190 but that would be lessened if you bought 2 at a time. The charge for their air freight is pretty inflated cos shipped the motor and whole kit plus an extra full length exhaust for $170. They all use Fed Ex for the shipment.
    I live in a very small community and I'd love to support my local shop 'Farmcare' but the prices are just too high and the margins too greedy. Despite that I have ordered one motor off them but it will be the last.
  10. aussieboy

    aussieboy Member

    where can you get them for this price in aus all the places on the web i looked at are $600+ my local honda dealer quoted $625
  11. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    My local hardware shop. 'Farmcare' in Mullumbimby. Haven't tried many other places but there is another guy in Ballina who sells them at that price.
  12. highrider

    highrider Guest

    how much heavier is the 4-stroke over the old 2-stroke? is it noticably different?
  13. crabdance

    crabdance Member

    Irish John,
    On the bike that you have the 4 stroke on, is it a Schwinn Point Beach Cruiser Bike? I'm looking at this bike to put a Grubee 4 stroke on. Someone suggested that I take a piece of cardboard and see if a 10x10 piece would fit in the frame... well it just barely didn't fit. Someone said that you might have put your 4 stroke on a bike like the one I looking at. Here is a link to the bike. Can you take a look and let me know if you think a Grubee will fit?

    Thanks. I appreciate you or anyone else who can comment on the matter. Thanks a bunch

  14. MasterLink

    MasterLink Member

    thats bike works well seen a bunch with a 4 stroke i was goin to get it but i went with the jaguar by Schwinn (look at my gallery )was a bit cheaper i didn't like the fenders rack all rattled way to much.. but i do love that red on that bike
    if i was doin it again i would spend more cash on the bike or get the Schwinn from a bike shop there a better made for bike shops anything with pacific labels on the frame = cheep. i realy like the felt cruiser and the electras i will go this way soon

    my frame
    and the point beach are the same and i have room to spare heheh what ever model you get make sure the rims are true,24,37&pid=49

    iam lovein my mb

    keep the shinny side up greasy side down
  15. crabdance

    crabdance Member

    Thanks for letting me know about the bike working with the 4 stroke engine. I'm very pleased to hear about this. I was about to get bummed over it because I was really starting to like the bike. I went to Walmart today and looked at it and it looks better in person that it does in the pictures off of their web site.

    I checked out the links you included in your posts. Those are some nice bikes. I like them a lot! You will have to send pictures when you get one and show us how it worked out.

    Thanks for letting me know about the rims being true. I'm new at this though. Is that something they can fix at the bike shop? Is it like balancing your tires on the car? Sorry to be dumb about it but it's been ages since I've messed with bikes and back then we didn't worry about the rims being true :). But I'm sure that having a powered bike makes all the difference in the world.

    Thanks for all the help.
  16. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    My schwinn was the Alloy Seven Cruiser with v-brakes (that's why I bought it cos I need brakes) The Walmart bike looks like it uses thinner tubing on the seat staus and chain stays. I would be careful buying it for a motor and if the wheels need trueing I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. Not good to be encouraging Chinese sloppyness.
    If it seems OK in the flesh and you know someone who knows about motorised bikes who can tell you its OK then buy it.
    The Felts are lovely but the distance between the downtube and the seat tube will give problems with a 4-stroke tray because the distance looks too long. You can fabricate a solution for the 2-strokes from looking at what others have done. I particularly like what Itskeith has done using a pipe clamp - very spunky. The grubee kit goes well on the Schwinn but I want good brakes and the only schwinn I could find with v-brakes was the one I've mentioned above. A fantastic bike for any motor would be the Felt Heritage which you'll find shown in their 2008 cruiser range. It has springer forks and v-brakes which I think I've only seen once before on a Trek classic Californian cruiser. seek advice from this site before you rush out and buy.
  17. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    my frame
    and the point beach are the same and i have room to spare heheh what ever model you get make sure the rims are true,24,37&pid=49

    The Electra cruisers are noticeably superior construction to the Schwinn - well worth the extra money cos they are so much better. However they all seem to have hub gears and only one coaster brake so I can't see them being much good for motorizing. Pity cos they are a very good bike all round.
  18. crabdance

    crabdance Member

    Hi Irish John,
    Thanks for the info about the bike. I'm glad that I will have room on the point beach bike. As I have said before, I really have my heart set on that bike. I know that brand and model of bike might not be the best but I have to watch my pennies. I live off of my disability check only and that's not a whole lot. That's also the reason why I'm not moving real fast on this. Have to get the money right first (sorry about the sob story). I know that the bike I'm thinking about getting may not be the best in the world but I do like the way it looks :).

    How do I make sure that the rims are true? I know that some people have said that the Kulana bike (sold at Walmart too) starts wobbling at about 30-35. I wonder if it's because the tires aren't true?

    Anyway... thanks for the help. Glad to know that the engine will fit the the bike I have chosen.

  19. Irish John

    Irish John Guest

    Crabdance, to check the rims take the bike out of the rack and turn it upside down on the floor of Wallmarts. Turn the pedals so the back wheel spins fast and look along its line to see if the wheel is warped. If it wobbles it's warped.
    Spin the front wheel by hand to check it the same way. Feel the spokes for tightness. Grab about five spokes in your hand and gently squeeze them if the rims are really flimsy the rim will warp on the side opposite where you are squeezing. If you have to squeeze hard to make the rim move that's normal but if you squeeze not too hard and the rim moves very noticeably it's a sign that the wheel is very flimsy in construction. Do you know how fat the diameter of the chainstay should be to allow the tensioner to clamp onto it? A thin chainstay can be packed out with lead to help the chain tensioer grip it. But if the frame is really flimsy and flexes badly when you sit on it you may have problems with a 4-stroke motor. I reckon it is probably OK and you can get a nice bike out of it. Do a search on MBc entering the model of this bike to see what people say about it. I doubt a Schwinn could be that bad.
    Mudguards are important and so are brakes and I hope it has more than just that rear hub coaster brake. I have a particular dislike for the American coaster brake and prefer v-brakes or, ideally, a front disc brake. Both these are easy to service. I hope this helps you but are there other cruisers in Wallmart that have 2 brakes? We don't have Wallmart in Australia and we get robbed on cruiser bikes. You'll get there Crabdance and soon you'll be a speck on the horizon surrounded by a dustcloud and the smell of burnt tyre rubber. Good on yer.
  20. crabdance

    crabdance Member

    Hi Irish John,
    Thanks for all the info about the tires and such. With everyone's help, I sure have been learning a lot in the past few days. Now I know how to check and see if the bike's rims are true! Something I didn't know until I started talking here in this forum. Thanks everyone (and Irish John) for the help.

    I don't know about the brakes on other bikes in Walmart Don't know if they have 2 brakes or not. I have to admit that I was so worried about the 10x10 inch test that I didn't think about anything else. I will have to try and do some more reading on the bike and see what it says (if anything) about the brakes.

    Thanks for the vote of confidence. I can't wait until I'm a spec in the distance.... riding and grinning :cool:.

    Thanks for all your help Irish John,
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