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Discussion in 'Whizzer Motorized Bicycles' started by Buzz Bomb, May 20, 2009.

  1. Buzz Bomb

    Buzz Bomb Member

    I'll start it with my new project-
    My first ride had a tweaked frame, so I took everything off of it and the new(old) donor is a 1938 Elgin Bluebird. The chances of finding the original tank to restore it as a bicycle was pretty much nil, so I figured I'd give it new life as a motored bike. So, instead of Bluebird, maybe Warbird?
    I understand that I should truss the frame in weak areas, but I don't want to ruin the original lines of the frame, so I'll just have to take my chances...
     

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  2. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    It's gonna be a good looking bike.

    The only part of that frame that would worry me is the bulge upfront. But an engine mounted there would strengthen it, I would think.
     
  3. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    what a cool bike :cool2:
    the lines of the frame, the forks, the fenders...the list goes on !!!
     
  4. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    I don't know whether I'm in shock or in awe. I have a soft spot for Elgin bikes, and the Elgin Bluebird is one of my "Holy Grail" bikes. It has been for years. I've never seen one converted to a Whizzer before, this is likely to be a first. *sigh* I'd give my first born for a Bluebird...

    Hold on... Looking at your frame, it's not a Bluebird but a Robin. The Bluebird has the extended chainstays and seat stays to give it that "streamliner" look. The Robin is based on the Bluebird frame but with traditional seat stays and chainstays. Regardless, this will be one cool looking Whizzer once it's done.
    Good luck with the build!
     

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  5. Buzz Bomb

    Buzz Bomb Member

    No, it's a bluebird. The frame is the same as the Robin in your picture but in 1938, they made the Robin, and the Bluebird, the long extended rear chainstays ended in '37 and the only difference is that the Bluebird had the full tank that covered the top and head tube, as opposed to hanging as the Robin's tank,- and because of that, they didn't put a badge on the head tube. That's how you tell the difference between the two models. Mine doesn't have holes in the head tube for a badge and it's a 1938 serial number, so it was a Bluebird. A little trivia for you.:idea:
     
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  6. KilroyCD

    KilroyCD Active Member

    I learned something new today! :idea: The pic of the Bluebird was indeed of a '37. I didn't know they changed to the Robin-style frame in '38.
     
  7. Traveler

    Traveler Member

    Columbia bike and H engine

    I have been working on an old Columbia bike and H engine. After I get it running, I will take the engine back off, and remove the paint and re-paint and replace some bike parts. I have the rear fender and luggage rack removed. I find the regular belt is too short on the Columbia because the rear wheel is farther back than the Schwinn.

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  8. Buzz Bomb

    Buzz Bomb Member

    I can't tell in the photo- did you have to bend the crank to get it to clear the belt cover? On my Roadmaster, I found that the best fit for the belts was a 62 rear and a slightly shorter front belt. It was the only setup that allowed the tension to be even. I don't know if have a WC1 makes a difference though...
     
  9. Traveler

    Traveler Member

    No, I didn't have to bend anything. Not yet, anyway. I don't have a belt or coil cover yet, but plan on getting them.

    I was looking at the sheave today and think I have the screws on the wrong side of the spokes. I have an old manual that shows them on the other side. I will probably have to move it. I will mark it on the spokes before losening the screws, since it took awhile to get it aligned. Sure wish I knew a Whizzer expert in my area.
     
  10. Buzz Bomb

    Buzz Bomb Member

    Okay, well here she is, fitted and ready(I think) for her first trip around the block. She's an old gal, and I hope she holds together! :sweatdrop:
    I'm so relieved that I didn't have to dimple the frame!
    I already found out that I can't sit on it while the drop stand is down, because I bent it the first time I tried that. So, for pictures, I'll keep it, but a Whizzer stand will have to be used. That sucks, but whatever it takes.:-/
     

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  11. Buzz Bomb

    Buzz Bomb Member

    For Sale

    Hello everyone,
    since I posted this project, I've found that tough times call for thinning the herd. It is still as pictured, with the addition of a Whizzer drop stand the original solid chrome Elgin sprocket, correct for the bike. I have period front motorcycle sealed beam clamp on headlamp, and a lighted, jeweled tail lamp, neither are mounted but included. I'd like to get $800. You couldn't gather these parts and build your own for this, so I'll save you the trouble. It's located in OC, CA. Local pickup is encouraged,:likelots: and shipping is available if it comes to it.:ack2: Shipping is on your dime, of course.
     
  12. thimmaker

    thimmaker New Member

    whizzer bluebird

    Are those the original fenders on that bike??
    Geo.
     
  13. Buzz Bomb

    Buzz Bomb Member

    They are correct for the period but I'm not 100% sure what they came off of. They are the sturdiest ones I could find while putting it together. They are built almost more like motorcycle fenders than bicycle fenders.
     
  14. MaxGlide

    MaxGlide Member

    still available?

    Hey Buzzbomb....is she still available? I might have someone for you.

    Wayne
     
  15. Buzz Bomb

    Buzz Bomb Member

    Yes, she's just hibernating under a cover in the garage.
    As a side note, the Bluebird frame has not been altered with dimples or welding or holes drilled, so if you wanted to restore it as an original bike, and transfer all the whizzer stuff onto another frame, it's a good candidate. I even have that "another frame" for ya...:eek:
     
  16. MaxGlide

    MaxGlide Member

    I'm pretty sure we'll take that....just waiting to hear back from my friend.

    Do you have an email we can communicate via? Can you email me at maxglide1@gmail.com?

    Wayne
     
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  17. bass

    bass New Member

    I am also interested if max doesn't end up getting it.
     
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