New Staton Options -- BIMOTO

Discussion in 'Spare Parts, Tools & Product Developement' started by kerf, Jul 25, 2009.

  1. kerf

    kerf Guest

    I called David Staton yesterday about 3 pm, to order some parts to overhaul my chain drive. By 4:30 pm, I had a UPS tracking number in my email. Talk about service but that's not on topic. While I talked to David, he called my attention to a new product on his web site, that runs engine power through the dérailleur gears.

    He also told me that he is working on a similar setup for his outside drive gearbox, that drives a freewheel on the left side of the pedal crank. He said he would forward info as soon as he has it ready. Sounds very interesting!
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  2. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    yes I saw those around some where else
    nice setup to say the least
    is this a new product that he's making or getting from some where ?

    a lot of new good motor bike things been showing up lately

  3. mlcorson

    mlcorson Member

    BIMOTO kit. This looks SWEET!

    Just saw this BIMOTO kit posted on site. Looks like a definite player in the crank driven arena. Of course, I want one! Anyone have experience with BIMOTO?
  4. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    Interesting setup. Listed for 54mm clutch assemblies though.
    Anyone speak Polish?
    Looks like they have a small output electric drive also.
  5. kerf

    kerf Guest

    I would think he's a vendor on that specific item but it's his plans to create a version for the Staton gearbox that intrigues me. The rear dérailleur - engine drive setup is gaining popularity and would add much versatility to any bike. My two speed setup is great, 90% of the time, I'm in top gear but on a long steep hill, dropping from 18.71/1 to 23.08/1 is nice.
  6. mlcorson

    mlcorson Member

    Next build for me. I like the set up. Maybe next summer.
  7. MotorBicycleRacing

    MotorBicycleRacing Well-Known Member

    limited engine choices and power due to using a 54mm clutch

    not going to sell very many of those at $1000

    Bimoto made very nice motorcycles, Italian
    they may not still be in business and its probably a different company
  8. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    Bimota. Different company, still made and imported.

    I translated the pl site and the complete setup with the bike, GX25 and drive assembly is 3950 Polish zloty = $1338 US at today's exchange.
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2009
  9. fsprandy

    fsprandy Member

    Too much money and too little information.
  10. kerf

    kerf Guest

    I agree but that's not what I'm excited about. I'm looking at a Staton produced, freewheel crank / chain ring set that has an additional freewheel on the left side to receive input from the Staton O/S drive gear box. That makes a six speed rack mount on my full suspension with my R460. Supposed to be in the works, let everyone know when I hear something.
  11. fsprandy

    fsprandy Member

    Isn't the Staton gearbox a bit on the heavy side? Wouldn't the Bimoto worm gear be a more compact and light way to get the necessary gear reduction. If the drive is on the left side won't the pedals have to spin when under power?
  12. kerf

    kerf Guest

    The Staton box is moderately heavy but very rugged and will handle much larger and more powerful engines. The drive would be through a freewheel mounted on the left side of the crank. Not sure of the pedal crank internals as all sprockets would need to be separated from the pedal shaft with freewheels or one way bearings.
  13. SirJakesus

    SirJakesus Guest

    I think it looks quite promising. For a grand it should have the 76mm clutch option and the ability to work on some higher end dual suspension bikes though. I don't think I could give up my TLE43... I'd be CRAWLING up the hills around here.
  14. eastwoodo4

    eastwoodo4 Member

    1000 dollars is to much.check out my version of this in my thread"well balanced rack mount".
  15. Leonardo

    Leonardo New Member

    ok.... who really "looked" at the pictures...

    i thought we weren't supposed to run a 4 stroke 45 degrees inclined

    anybody else notice the "dip stick" between pullstart and fuel tank
    when viewing from rear?

    how will you check the oil...

    i believe this to be a step in the right direction,
    but needs a few modifications.

    they could simply add four more mount holes to tilt motor,
    or tilt entire assembly how it is mounted to bicycle.

    i do like the mounting location though
    i was already trying to figure how to do this
    for my K2 EVO

    this would answer a lot of my preferences
    first being right side drive
    second being less reciprocating mass (chains/jackshafts)
    third being behind seat / but not rack mount
    (this will not interfear with suspension performance)

    i don't belive clearance will be an issue for me
    but i fully intend to tie a pack under my seat
    as a test,... before purchasing one.
  16. ultima

    ultima New Member

    That was until the Honda GX25
    "The world's first 360°-inclinable 4-stroke engine"​

    I changed the oil today. The "dipstick" is readily accessible. No need to remove anything. All I had to do is rotate the bike on the bike stand (so the oil doesn't run out from the dipstick due to gravity)

    No need!

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  17. mlcorson

    mlcorson Member

    What's your review on this set up?
  18. ultima

    ultima New Member

    I think it's teriffic.
    I rode it 70km today, and it was a bit embarrassing filling up with 0.5 litre at the gas station. Fuel consumption is 1L/100Km. My review would be a bit boring actually, because it gets all the figures they claim on the staton website (45km/hr, 1L/100km, wieight 6kg). It hasn't given me any trouble yet.
    I guess all I could add is that it sounds much like a Honda Cub motorcycle.
    Very happy.

  19. andyszyd

    andyszyd Member

    So you have the bimoto? Congratulations, I am thinking of getting one, hoping it can be as good on the asphalt as good pulling with full torque on step mountain off road tracks.

    What is your bike gearing?

    What is the slowest speed on the lowest gear you can ride it with clutch fully engaged and what are approximately engine RPM at that slowest speed?

    I know the main gearing is 12:1 can you tell me the ratio of sprockets? Number of teeth on engine output sprocket and number of teeth on freewheeling sprocket.

    How is the freewheling both engine and pedaling? Must be great thing to have.
  20. TREEWK

    TREEWK Member

    Here Is My Latest Build. It Pulls My 300 + Weight Thru All 6 Gears Awsumly. Just Put The Larger 26 X 2.125 Smooth Tread Tires And Wheels On Yesterday. The Titan Has Greaaaat Torque Thru All The Gears, Without High Rpm. The Previous Rear Wheel Had A 28 Tooth Cog For Low Gear. Robbed The Wheels And Tires Of A Tandem. That Rear Wheel Has The 34 Tooth Cog For Low Gear. Did Not Need It But It May Come In Handy. I Have Most Of The Parts For An "inframe" Titan Shifter Build. Have Not Rode My 2 Cvt Free Wheel Bikes For A While. The Yellow Shifter Is My Main Squeeze For Now!! Lol. The 6 Speed Is Addictive. Motors Should Last Much Longer, Fuel Milage Should Be Much Better. No Vibrations!! Parts Run Around $400-$450. Plus A Bicycle. Also This Is A Dual Suspension. Ron

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