Yoda Bob
Member
Continuation of a discussion I began in my intro, here:
http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=27151
Thanks to SimpleSimon, Happy Valley, give me vtec, professor, and Alaskavan for your prompt and well-thought advice. After soaking on your comments a couple days, I believe I've come up with something that makes a lot more sense.
Instead of the powered long-tail concept I started out with, I'm thinking of putting the stock GEBE setup on an back-end of my old Giant mountain bike and installing a large cargo rack on the front. This solution provides a number of benefits:
Strength: I've found over the years that a shorter, stiffer rear triangle better copes with the torque loads imposed by the drive train.
Weight Distribution: Heavy loads on the back of the bike stress the rear wheel and create wierd handling characteristics.
Handling: The old Giant is by far the most comfortable of my potential donors. Moving the cargo weight forward will only improve its stability.
Cost: Adopting this "minimalist" approach creates potential cost savings in many component selections.
Here's how I see it so far:
Stock Giant Rincon frame
Stock cantilever brakes at both ends
Stock 36-spoke front wheel
GEBE Eagle / Velocity 36-spoke 14-GA rear wheel
Tires - Schwalbe Speed Cruiser HS 321 26 X 1.50 street slicks
Front cargo rack w/basket or milk crate
Fork leg "low-rider" pannier mounts and water-proof panniers
Planet Bike fenders
Dual-headlamps (incandescent) forward, hi-intensity LED flasher/tail light
Motor: No longer sold on contructing a two-wheeled freight truck, I'm re-thinking the 35cc power unit specification I submitted in my initial posting. Maybe I can make do with less.
Would a smaller motor (such as the 25cc Robin/Subaru) have enough grunt to propel me, the bike, and my gear (approximately 300 lbs.) up the mile-or-so 10% grade at the end of my commute? What if I helped?
With gearing suitable for my worst-case climb, could I hope to maintain average speeds of 15-20 MPH over the flat to rolling terrain found on the rest of my route?
Would appreciate your feedback on any and all design considerations, but particularly with the powertrain (as I have zero experience with them).
Thanks!
Yoda
PS - Almost forgot: I've got my heart set on the front rack pictured below, but have not been able to identify the manufacturer nor locate a U.S. domestic source. Is anyone familiar with this piece?
http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=27151
Thanks to SimpleSimon, Happy Valley, give me vtec, professor, and Alaskavan for your prompt and well-thought advice. After soaking on your comments a couple days, I believe I've come up with something that makes a lot more sense.
Instead of the powered long-tail concept I started out with, I'm thinking of putting the stock GEBE setup on an back-end of my old Giant mountain bike and installing a large cargo rack on the front. This solution provides a number of benefits:
Strength: I've found over the years that a shorter, stiffer rear triangle better copes with the torque loads imposed by the drive train.
Weight Distribution: Heavy loads on the back of the bike stress the rear wheel and create wierd handling characteristics.
Handling: The old Giant is by far the most comfortable of my potential donors. Moving the cargo weight forward will only improve its stability.
Cost: Adopting this "minimalist" approach creates potential cost savings in many component selections.
Here's how I see it so far:
Stock Giant Rincon frame
Stock cantilever brakes at both ends
Stock 36-spoke front wheel
GEBE Eagle / Velocity 36-spoke 14-GA rear wheel
Tires - Schwalbe Speed Cruiser HS 321 26 X 1.50 street slicks
Front cargo rack w/basket or milk crate
Fork leg "low-rider" pannier mounts and water-proof panniers
Planet Bike fenders
Dual-headlamps (incandescent) forward, hi-intensity LED flasher/tail light
Motor: No longer sold on contructing a two-wheeled freight truck, I'm re-thinking the 35cc power unit specification I submitted in my initial posting. Maybe I can make do with less.
Would a smaller motor (such as the 25cc Robin/Subaru) have enough grunt to propel me, the bike, and my gear (approximately 300 lbs.) up the mile-or-so 10% grade at the end of my commute? What if I helped?
With gearing suitable for my worst-case climb, could I hope to maintain average speeds of 15-20 MPH over the flat to rolling terrain found on the rest of my route?
Would appreciate your feedback on any and all design considerations, but particularly with the powertrain (as I have zero experience with them).
Thanks!
Yoda
PS - Almost forgot: I've got my heart set on the front rack pictured below, but have not been able to identify the manufacturer nor locate a U.S. domestic source. Is anyone familiar with this piece?