Powerkings clutch causing me serious grief!

Discussion in 'Frame Mounted Engines' started by BeachBruiser, Jan 17, 2009.

  1. BeachBruiser

    BeachBruiser New Member

    Can anyone out there help me out? I put my 80cc bike together and now it won't pedal. The clutch will not engage at all. There is no action on the clutch and the metal pin that contacts the ball bearing inside does nothing when I try to push on it. It's completely stationary and can't be budged. I've sent numerous requests for help to powerking and they've ignored all of them. I'm thinking of pulling a paypal chargeback if they continue to ignore me. Have I done something wrong or do I have a faulty clutch? Here are some pictures though I don't know that they can help. Isn't the pin supposed to move in and out to activate the clutch? I'm so frustrated with this project and the customer service at powerking.
     

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  2. MotorMac

    MotorMac Member

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  3. cooltoy

    cooltoy Member

    So you had it together but you could not peddle because the motor wanted to turn over, is that it? Was the clutch cable nice and tight?
     
  4. BeachBruiser

    BeachBruiser New Member

    No, it wouldn't free wheel with the clutch engaged. I whacked it with a ball peen hammer a dozen times and now it works fine... no thanks to the lousy customer service at Power King however. Thanks for the great assembly instructions, Power King. You guys are top notch! If it weren't for this site I'd have never gotten mine together. Now I just need a replacement chain. #41 I'm reliably told through Mr. Right. I'm gonna get up early tomorrow and start looking for it.
     
  5. Skyliner70cc

    Skyliner70cc Active Member

    Beachnewbie, do not use the stock studs on the engine mounts.
     
  6. hill climber

    hill climber Member

    lets see if i can help. first, your not going to push that pin in by hand, you can barely activate the clutch arm by hand. so put the cover back on, install the clutch lever and cable. adjust the cable so it is good and tight. the clutch should disengage with the lever on the handle bars now. hope this helps with the clutch issue, as for powerking, sorry cant help but mine runs great. just let us here help you get it running and you'll have so much fun you'll see that all the strugles to get it going are worth it.
    hill climber
     
  7. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    careful with those smashing THINGS

    take them to the (out house) vendor section I reckon
    seems that the least they could do
    is be in some form of contact with you

    although we noticed that you got it running on your own
    was that with a hammer THING you say
    we have always heard
    get a bigger hammer
    saw a guy the other day
    dragging a 40 lb sledge behind his motor bike

    be careful with those smashing THINGS

    have fun as you ride your MB thing
     
  8. spunout

    spunout Member

    it looks to me, as if the motor is at a very severe forward-angle....
    if thats the case, the chain may be getting stuck between the sprocket and the engine casing. you can see it.
    and that pin wont move in or out, without the cover/arm on.....
     
  9. cooltoy

    cooltoy Member

    Good eyes spunout.
    Also, it looks like the rear mount is not sitting up against the seat post. If he were to fix that, the engine would sit on less of an angle.
     
  10. spunout

    spunout Member

    powerking has made a casting design change, recently. to allow for a bigger downtube and without having to drill holes to use the "adaptor" plate nightmare, they've widened the front engine mount. fat downtubes are a cinch, but inadvertently, they've created a easily-remedied angle problem.
     
  11. biketec

    biketec Member

    You may also want to re adjust the cable guide on the Engine it looks like its off and your cables doing a 90 to get to the arm that would make it almost impossible to pull as well.
     
  12. biketec

    biketec Member

    Here are some pictures to help you see the proper alignment, Also if you don't like the heavy pull you can get the new longer bent ones for better alignment and last but not least, Don't take this as I'm trying to sell you anything but our kits have that removed now and is permanent.
     

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  13. cooltoy

    cooltoy Member

    This has been an interesting thread. I've learned that the engines are changing.
    biketec, I like that design but I was wondering about something. Some people say that you should get grease on the jackshaft by removing the cable stay (the part you have moved) How would a person lube those two bearings now?
     
  14. biketec

    biketec Member

    You Don't need to these days the bearings are sealed now back in the day they were only sealed on one side. there's not much in there to lube I will add some pix of whats inside and what not, and show a full illustration for you guys but right now its that time for me to head home so check back tomorrow and I will show you anything you want to see inside and out.
     
  15. cooltoy

    cooltoy Member

    Great, I'd like to see the bearings inside the case if possible
     
  16. biketec

    biketec Member

    will do, I can show you the old size and style, and new ones as well as inside and all components if you have any request let me know id be glade to show you.
     
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  17. biketec

    biketec Member

    Ok here are some pix to illustrate whats going on inside the motor.
     

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  18. cooltoy

    cooltoy Member

    Thanks. Very nice clean castings. In the second from last pic, what is that above the orange screwdriver? It looks like a wheel hub with a real bearing.
    If you were asked, what is better with the new model?
     
  19. biketec

    biketec Member

    there's a lot of good stuff about the new kits I will show you before and afters.

    LOL yea that's a HD hub with real sealed bearings in it very nice way to go good eye! there's a couple sittin there on the bench.

    YOu should see my bench I think hurricane MBs Hit it and destroyed it.
     
  20. biketec

    biketec Member

    Ok so with out veering too far off topic cause Id hate to get in trouble but the major differences are 203 bearings instead of 202 on the cranks, Rollers on top and bottom of the rod 45 spark plug lowered deck, better porting and castings, and of course the clutch arm and guide, all in all a better quality engine.

    Here's a small glimpse of my desk I know its bad .... been way too busy lately :computer:
     

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