pre build parts list, input please

Huntington

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So I am in the planing stage of my build. I have somewhat of a budget, I would like to keep this build around $1,000 and have a well built, good performing, and safe HT MB. I figured I would list my parts, maybe receive some input from you good folks, and suggestions of anything overlooked.

Frame: The Gurbee GT2 Bicycle framehttp://www.usabikemotors.com/index....id=144&zenid=f72f0fada2eb02a962f0c11aae58a211
With HD wheels and built in tank, along with a steal frame and duel pull break leaver. I think it's a good base for a quality MB. A lil expensive but with $100 off, its a bearable cost. The tank sticker has to go, should be easy enough with a blow dryer and goo-be-gone. I have plains to paint some decals but till I can find an airbrusher and some more money to wast a few MotoredBikes.com stickers will fit nicely.​

Engine Kit: Gurbee Skyhawk GT5 66cc Angle Fire Slant Head Motor
Kings sells the kit for $150. I hear good things about the slant heads. I am considering the billet head from RSE. I guess if I go that rout I dont need the slant head. $100 is hard to justify for a head, but if there is a performance incress over the slant, it might be worth it to me. Any opinions for one vs the other?​

Expansion Chamber:http://www.sickbikeparts.com/catalo...id=83&osCsid=b4bcf110fbb62f4312ad1ea50b2bd2e4
It seems like a no-brainier, sick bike parts makes a great tuned pipe that looks pretty good. I just need to decide between black or chrome.​

CNS Carburetor
Spookytooth has it for $50 and seems like it will be far better then the stock carb. I would like to use a boost bottle but I no longer have use of a machine shop. So drilling and tapping the inlet might be tough, unless the boost bottle supplied inlet would work for the CNS. Can anyone confirm?​

HD Airfilterhttp://www.sickbikeparts.com/catalo...id=40&osCsid=b4bcf110fbb62f4312ad1ea50b2bd2e4
I'm looking for the best airfilter I can get, max flow and good looks. I also dont want to spend a lot of time trying to fit K&N. Are there any better air filters out there that are a direct replacement?​

NGK BP5HS Spark-plug and HP wires/boots
Im in So Cali, seems like this plug is well suited for our temps.​


I estimate about $750 for everything listed above, not including shipping. I have another $300 or so to play with. A lighting system is not going to be factored in this build, saving that for another time. I have some high grade 6mm SS all thread and plenty of SS nuts and bolts. A shifter kit, although very cool, is not in the cards for this build. Maybe next time.

So I need a few things, some better fuel line. What is the ID/OD of the stock cheap fuel line?

I hear there is a better, slim head gasket.. Does that increase performance?

I suppose I can upgrade my drive chain. I have a 36T sprocket and 2 46T sprockets.

Ill need another fuel filter.. dont remember what I used last time, I think a VW filter.

Also, has anyone used the Brake/clutch lever? is it any good? The bike has three brakes and one duel pull lever, need to clean up the left side controls with the brake/clutch or by removing 1 brake.

So thats my build list.. please comment or suggest an alternative for anything I have mentioned.
 
Regarding heads, the slant head has significantly higher compression ratio than the stock centre-fire heads, about 8.5:1 vs 6:1. The RSE billet head has a claimed 16:1, although I've read that he used a different measurement system and that the CR is actually 9.5:1.
I have one fitted and noticed a significant power increase over the stock head right through the rev range, but much harder to turn over for starting. (I kick-start on a stand now.)
One point with the RSE billet head - I had to fit longer cylinder studs. Stock were 8mm x 1mm x 108mm. I needed 112mm studs.

Sick Bike Parts have a pretty neat little inline fuel filter. I got a similar one from my local motorcycle shop.

... Steve
 
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Thanks for the input Steve, I'm thinking maybe I'll just stick with the slant head and get the MB running smooth and broken in before upgrading to the billet. If true, 8.5-9.5:1 may not be worth the expense at this time. How would that translate to mph diff?). Harder time starting is not attractive but a noticeable increase in the power bad would be nice. Still weighing my options but the RSE head might be on the back burner.
 
Not sure of the power/speed difference between a slant head and the billet head. I've never owned a slant head, only the centre-fire and billet types.
I'm not sure that the billet head was really worth the $100 cost plus tracking down longer studs. (The thread is 8mm x 1mm, metric fine - not easy to get here.)

... Steve
 
Standard metric threads are easy to get and my local bolt specialist? had 8mm x 1mm nuts, but no threaded rod or long bolts.
In the end, the boys at Sick Bike Parts did me a favour and made a couple of sets of custom studs.
By now, Tony at RSE might have studs to suit. It would be nice to think so. Others had the same problem. One guy simply left the washers off but that's not a real good idea.

... Steve
 
Sounds like you've got a pretty solid start. As far as the boost bottle is concerned you can put it on with a drill and I believe a 1/8 npt tap. Kind of a nerve racking undertaking, drilling into your intake but it is worth it. I'm not sure how the bottle will work with the upgraded carb, but with stock it's pretty hard to dial in the idle. That being said, it runs soooooooo much smoother. I strongly urge you to upgrade your chain to a 415. The stock one will most likely break at some point. If your lucky you wont have to use a tensioner with the larger chain. Also look up large filipino's clutch pulley idea. It makes things alot easier. Also reconsider headlights, it'll only take one close encounter with a cager for you to wish you had them. Take a look at maniac mechanics sprocket mount. I think they're about $65 but it's a huge upgrade. Anyway to each his own. Happy building.
 
Im saving lights for another time, I have some safety lights for now.

I dont need the sprocket adapter, the bicycle comes with a drum break mount for the sprocket. I have done the boost bottle before, I used the mill to get a stright hole, I just dont have the use of a mil or any drill for that matter now. Im just a college student, no longer an employed craftsmen.
 
you can pick up a drill for 20 bucks if you watch the ads. Granted you won't be able to build a house with it but you will be able to work on and fabricate parts for your bike. Or look into your schools automotive dept. They might let you use their equip if you can talk them into it. Personally I'm a "retired" finish carpenter who has gone back to school as well. I've traded in my milwaukee for a cheap HF version that economically does the trick. I used a 7/32" i.d. for my fuel line, it provided a good tight fit. Also picked up a fuel filter with a colored metal casing off of ebay for about 5 dollars shipped. They had a bunch of different colors to choose from. And never forget the slime for the tires! One more cool mod for the ht is the mounted choke pull. I think the cns carb may already have a cable attached. If it does, performance benefits aside it would be worth the cost for the upgrade. Last thing sorry for rambling, design/use high quality engine mounts.
 
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