Racing motorized bike ideas & advice?

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by bikejock, Jun 29, 2015.

  1. bikejock

    bikejock Member

    I'm thinking of building another motorized bike only for racing sometime next year maybe. I was thinking of going with a 99cc or maybe even a 200cc motor for it. What are some good bikes or frames out there that could handle this type of project?

    I'm even considering a nitro system & maybe even a turbo kit.
     

  2. The_Aleman

    The_Aleman Active Member

  3. jhammondcpa

    jhammondcpa Active Member

    You should check out the Sportsman Flyer for ideas at http://www.sportsmanflyer.com/. Another frame to consider can be found at Phantom-bikes.com or Bikeberry. Phantom frame-enlarged.jpg

    Jimmy H.
     
  4. MotorBicycleRacing

    MotorBicycleRacing Well-Known Member

    Which current successful Socal Motor Bicycle Racer do you think uses a Felt frame?

    Joker Machine used Felts but we haven't seen them at a race since Richard got hurt
    and the whole company moved to Lake Havasu in Nevada.

    There only is one current racer with a 212cc in a Felt and his bike broke at the last 2 races
    this year.

    However Felts make awesome motorized bicycles.
     
  5. MotorBicycleRacing

    MotorBicycleRacing Well-Known Member

    You can Not buy that Felt knock off frame from Phantom-bikes.com or Bikeberry.

    Phantom-bikes.com the importer will no longer sell you only the frame.

    They stopped selling the frame because they don't want the competition
    against their complete bike builds.
     
  6. troyg

    troyg Member

    If you want strength, think of getting a tandem bike, remove all the stoker stuff and there is a place for everything already beefed up.If $$ is no object, look at back to back recumbent tandems, I can see mass potential in those for cargo, even if the cargo is a huge engine.Also anytime I'm on feebay, I check out old Puch moped frames, they are also a great starting point, with some weld modding.Be careful!
     
  7. jhammondcpa

    jhammondcpa Active Member

    The Phantom-bike frames are still on their web site. I found the Joker FELT-SLATER-WILLOW-SPRINGS-C-120428-006-W.jpg bike online. Enjoy the picture!

    Jimmy H.
     
  8. MotorBicycleRacing

    MotorBicycleRacing Well-Known Member

    Phantom Bikes is NOT selling the frame now! :tt1:

    The frames are Not on their website for sale.

    They said they are not going to sell the frames ever again because
    the say people were building them and passing them off as theirs.

    Oh yeah, I even called them..........:jester:

    Enjoy some accurate info!
     
  9. jhammondcpa

    jhammondcpa Active Member

  10. MotorBicycleRacing

    MotorBicycleRacing Well-Known Member

    Why?
    They are out of stock and have been out of stock for a long time. :dunce:
    Are you blind? :jester:

    Phantom Bikes is never selling any more frames to Bikeberry.
     
  11. bikejock

    bikejock Member

    That's a shame phantom bikes no longer sells their frame. Would have been a great race bike. But yea allot of dealers were trying to pass it off as their own but I knew it was the Phantom frame from their website.

    I'm considering felt because they have allot going for them & hear nothing but good things about Felt bikes. I like the looks of the Felt Red Wolf & the Bandito they had on their website.

    One frame I would really like to use is another Dyno frame like the one my current motorized bike uses. It's a shame they don't make those frames anymore. They are very sturdy & look really cool & have lots of space for those bigger engines.

    Now the engine I'm considering is a Harbor Freight 99cc or 200cc. The trick would be finding a creative way to make it mount to the bike because those engines are used more for lawn mowers, generators & stuff like that.
     
  12. The_Aleman

    The_Aleman Active Member

    Wasn't Scotto using a Felt canvas? If he's not now he won some races using one before.
     
  13. jhammondcpa

    jhammondcpa Active Member

    I like the "fat tire" model on the Felt bike site, but don't forget to check out the http://www.sportsmanflyer.com/ website for ideas and or a bike frame. Pat at SF has mounted 80cc to 212cc Liberator engines with Bully clutches and now has electric start on some engine combos.

    Jimmy H.
     
  14. jhammondcpa

    jhammondcpa Active Member

    I didn't realize the PB frame was no longer available on their site. The entire bike package is still there and the price looks good when you compare a Felt bike and all of the other pieces you need to finish the project. PB Package deal.jpg Vintage Iron Bolt Felt bike.jpg I haven't looked recently but I have seen a couple used PB bikes for sale. I found them using Google searches.

    Jimmy H.
     
  15. MotorBicycleRacing

    MotorBicycleRacing Well-Known Member

    Scotto's bike never was a Felt canvas with the built in tank.

    It was a Felt Slant and now is a very similar Felt Bixby.
    212cc HF monsta engine makes over 20 HP.

    Scott won the Unlimited race and the Ultimate race on May 30th
    beating AGK's son because Blayze crashed and had his jack shaft
    chain come off.


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  16. The_Aleman

    The_Aleman Active Member

    Ahh well, my mistake, I thought he was using a canvas early on.

    So allow me to revise my original comment. He's one of the most successful racers and uses a Felt.
     
  17. butre

    butre Well-Known Member

    you can still buy an assembled phantom ghost bicycle with no motor in it, it's just going to cost you an extra $500. they're made with good parts though
     
  18. bikejock

    bikejock Member

    I'm considering a Phantom for my next build even tho they are expensive. Would take me a while to save up. At least you get what you pay for at Phantom Bikes. I got a crank axle from them that lets me use original bearings & sprocket for my bike & it was well worth the $100. Saved me the hassle of swapping the bearing cups & it feels very well made compared to the kit 3 piece axle.
     
  19. KCvale

    KCvale Motorized Bicycle Vendor

    MotoPed makes the best Bicycle Frame to put a Motorcycle Engine in.
    $2,000 unassembled.

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    Whatever bike base you choose, just remember you need to stop as fast you can go.

    Though $2K sounds like a lot you have to look at the parts.
    Dual double pad disc brakes, full suspension, decent jackshaft pedal system, gas tank and exhaust, in short it's an awesome bicycle just looking for big engine ;-}
     
    Last edited: Jul 4, 2015
  20. bikejock

    bikejock Member

    I might go with a Felt Bandito or the Bixby. They are bikes more within my price range & I like the style of both of them.

    I may just go with another Grubee 49cc kit & make some racing modifications to it to see how powerful I can make it.
     
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