ROLLER chain guard

Discussion in 'Frame Mounted Engines' started by Cookie, Nov 28, 2006.

  1. Cookie

    Cookie Guest

    It took me a while to find the but here it is from the motokruser site.....
    Fri Apr 21, 2006 12:57 am



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    I know this isn't the most highly engineered chain roller guide but it works and it cost less than $10 to make. I would have liked to see how some of the ones on other bikes were made but I couldn't see them real well in the pictures I saw. Anyways here's what I did. This was meant to be a prototype but other than a little cleaning up and some paint I probably won't change it much since it works so well.

    I started with a 1 1/8" el cheapo hardware store u-bolt, a roller blade wheel and bearings, a piece of 3/8 fuel line tubing, some nylon tubing, and part of a vibration damping clamp from McMaster Carr.

    Here's a couple pictures of the finished roller




    Here's some pictures of the various parts







    I put a bolt thru the skateboard wheel and chucked it up in a drill press then cut the groove with some sharp tools. Q suggested that. I used a long u-bolt and cut the legs to the lengths I needed. I bought the set of wheels and bearings on ebay for next to nothing....$8 I think. ABEC 5 is a rating for bearings and it's pretty good. The I.D. of the bearings is 8mm which is less than 5 thousands of an inch bigger than 5/16". Since the u-bolt was 1/4", I put some 1/4" I.D. x 1/32 wall nylon tubing over the u-bolt. I only needed a piece long enough to support the inner races of the bearings when they were pressed into the wheel. The little piece of 3/8" steel gas line slipped over the nylon tubing and acts as a spacer between the two inner races of the bearings. You need to have that so that when you tighten the nut to hold the roller on you are only putting pressure on the steel spacer between the two inner bearing races. If you didn't do that the inner races would want to pull right out of the bearings when you tightened the nut. I also double nutted it so I didn't have to over tighten it. The green thing is half of a vibration dampner clamp that I had. It was a little small so I had to whittle on it a little with a die grinder. Here's a picture of the type of clamp that I used part of. It was $2.


    If anyone makes one, you should not mount it so that it puts pressure on the chain. It should just guide it when it's tight. Being on the top (the drive side), the chain pulls tight when its working and you don't want to put too much load on the bearings.

    Between taking care to align the sprockets and putting this roller on, the chain just rolls along real smooth now.

    I'm going to use another wheel and bearings to make a tensioner roller and replace that cheap chinese one that came with the kit.


    http://motokruisers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=473 <<<HAS PICS cOOKIE
     

  2. Tom

    Tom Active Member

    Wow. That is way cool. It looks like a bit of work though.
     
  3. Dr. J.

    Dr. J. Guest

    An easier way is to use the following items: inline skate wheel with bearing, seat clamp (1 1/8 inch for most bikes), 5/16 nut, and a 5/16 bolt (2 1/2 to 3 inches long) to be used as an axle.

    Dr. J.
     
  4. istbenz

    istbenz Guest

    Dr. J,
    We need a picture of this setup. sounds very easy and efficient.
     
  5. Cookie

    Cookie Guest

  6. Dr. J.

    Dr. J. Guest

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    Here Ya Go!

    Dr. J.
     
  7. istbenz

    istbenz Guest

    just what i needed. thanks :D
     
  8. mrsaxman99

    mrsaxman99 Guest

    You don't want to put the tensioner on the top....that is the pull side of the deal. It's much better to tension the chain on the bottom...just look at a regulaur chain on a pedal bicycle...
     
  9. Dr. J.

    Dr. J. Guest

    The idea of having the roller on the top is to eliminate most of the chain noise and the lurching when slowing down. The chain tries to climb the sprocket when slowing down. The chain doesn't touch the roller when accelerating. The roller is not meant to be used as a chain tensioner. I have this setup on three bikes and I won't be taking them off any time soon. :>)

    Dr. J.
     
  10. thatsdax

    thatsdax Guest

    CHAIN TENSION ROLLER ON TOP????

    I agree... The top part of the chain is the pull or power side. You do not want to put a chain tensioner there. But..You say...You are not using it for Tension? And only for Guide? When slowing down, this helps with any chain lash? So...Slow downs are smooth?....Hummmm.......Interesting.....Very Interesting.........I think I will try it. .. This seems very cool to me... Thanks for the tip....
     
  11. TWalker

    TWalker Guest

    Thats an excellent set up, better than mine although I did make one out of a roller blade wheel on my first bike. I used two giant washers on each side of the wheel though to guide the chain, and a bolt straight through the frame.

    Glad to see someone else figured this out.
     
  12. Chopper

    Chopper Guest

    Can't see why the above pictured setup couldn't be used on the bottom frame rail a chain tensioner.... I';ll sure be trying it out :)

    Excellent lateral thinking there.
     
  13. mikesbike

    mikesbike Guest

    I replaced my stock chain tentioner wheel with one of these inline skate mods over the weekend. What a HUGE differance in noise levels! I'm very pleased. I'm going to go with the upper chain guide this weekend to make it even quieter. It was an easy mod.
     
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