see someone screwed it up for us in ontario

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by wayde, Sep 19, 2008.

  1. wayde

    wayde Guest

    Man Critically Injured in Limited Speed Motorcycle Collision

    On Thursday, August 28th, 2008 at 12:32 p.m., members of the Niagara Regional Police
    Service and Niagara Emergency Medical Service responded to reports of a serious collision involving
    a bicycle on Welland Street near Killaly Street East in the City of Port Colborne.
    On their arrival at the scene Emergency Service personnel observed a 55 year-old male
    resident of Fort Erie, Ontario lying on the roadway with apparent head injuries. Located close to the
    male was a modified 21-speed mountain bike, which had been converted to a motor vehicle (Limited
    Speed Motorcycle) by the installation of a small 47cc two-stroke gasoline engine.
    Initial investigation by police determined that the motor assisted bicycle (converted bicycle)
    was being operated northbound on Welland Street, while crossing the railroad tracks located north of
    Killaly Street East the operator lost control of his vehicle and was thrown onto the roadway. At the
    time of the collision the male operator of the Limited Speed Motorcycle was not wearing any
    protective headgear.
    The male was transported from the collision scene by ambulance to Port Colborne General
    Hospital and later transferred to Hamilton General Hospital, where he remains in critical condition.
    The identity of the operator is being withheld at this time.
    This collision is under investigation by members of the Collision Reconstruction Unit and any
    witnesses are requested to contact them at (905) 688-4111 ext. 5500.

    The vehicle involved in this collision is a converted bicycle powered by a gasoline
    engine, which is classified by the Highway Traffic Act of Ontario as a Motor Vehicle (LIMITED
    SPEED MOTORCYCLE) and therefore anyone operating this type of vehicle, requires the
    vehicle to be registered, plated and insured, also the person operating it must possess a valid
    Ontario Driver's Licence, Class M2 or M with L condition and the operator must wear a
    certified motorcycle helmet.
    The Niagara Regional Police Service would like to remind the citizens of Niagara that before
    they consider purchasing any type of motor vehicle or converted vehicle they must comply with all the
    requirements under the Highway Traffic Act before it could be operated on a roadway.


    http://www.nrps.com/news/Month/moped mvc.pdf
     
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  2. Pablo

    Pablo Motored Bikes Sponsor

    Just a matter of time like it or not...I wonder how fast he was going?

    No helmet? Genius material.
     
  3. wayde

    wayde Guest

    one of my co workers witnessed it and said the guy was pedalling motor was off so can't be more than twenty km'h ish
     
  4. CalgarysFool

    CalgarysFool Member

    Wayde,

    Strikes me that the info is incorrect regarding classification of the bike as a motor vehicle. If so, or if there is some other exception making MBc legal, it would serve the interests of the community were someone to write a letter to the editor of that paper correcting the mis-information.

    Brenton
     
  5. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    Bad news, hate to see anyone injured.
    And yeah, it's just a matter of time. The clock is ticking as all the kits, etc. get assembled and out on the roads. More riders, more incidents.

    A point gets raised here about bikeing on an MB with the motor off. I do this often (rack mount) when I'm downtown making numerous stops or in places I just want to remain in stealth mode. I go unnoticed with the engine off, just a bicycle, kind of a novelty.

    That'll eventually change I reckon. like rowing a boat with the motor up, in my state makes you still a motored boat.
     
  6. wayde

    wayde Guest

    I would write to the editor of the paper but that' the media release directly off the police force website
     
  7. CalgarysFool

    CalgarysFool Member

    Darn.

    If ya can't trust the police to get it right (write), ...
     
  8. Big Blue

    Big Blue Member

    People get hurt everyday on regular bicycles, A accident like this with or without a motor is a common thing and we can't let public opinion or law enforcement forget that.
     
  9. arceeguy

    arceeguy Active Member

    I don't see how that guy screwed anything up for anyone in Ontario. They didn't create any new laws or ban motorized bike in Ontario, did they?

    I think motorized bikes should be relatively unregulated. No insurance, no registration, no license, no plates. Keep the speed under 20mph, minimum age 14, and require helmets for those under 17.

    Accidents will happen and people will be injured and some may die. Everything we do has some inherent risk. While you don't expect to die hopping in your car and going a few miles down the road to the quickie mart, it is possible. We don't ban automobiles because of it. As mentioned, people get injured or killed on non-motorized bikes every day - it would be ridiculous to require licensing, insurance and registration for a pedal bicycle, wouldn't it?
     
  10. MotorMac

    MotorMac Member

    accidents happen

    Yes accidents happen all the time, I only had my bike 1 week and the front wheel got caught in streetcar tracks flipping me over to the side, I broke my finger and injured my shoulder.Luckilly for me it was not a lot worst as I did smack my head too but the helmet protected me. Yes I have learned from this experience and It will not happen again,and this is a warning to all bikers in the city to stay away from streetcar tracks they are really dangerous. Im more cautious and careful now, it hurts more at my age. Mac:cry:
     
  11. fetor56

    fetor56 Guest

    Your taking a risk just getting out of bed in the morning so if u want to play it safe lock yourself away in a bank vault...that's safe but it's not living.
    They say "all publicity is good publicity" but that's rubbish.......some things don't need unwarranted attention,especially if your reporting the facts incorrectly.
     
  12. ibdennyak

    ibdennyak Guest

    Accidents will happen and people will be injured and some may die. Everything we do has some inherent risk. While you don't expect to die hopping in your car and going a few miles down the road to the quickie mart, it is possible. We don't ban automobiles because of it. As mentioned, people get injured or killed on non-motorized bikes every day - it would be ridiculous to require licensing, insurance and registration for a pedal bicycle, wouldn't it?


    You're probably right, unfortunately todays societies attitudes probably don't agree. The attitudes and mores seem to go from overly lenient to overly strict in cycles. It may not be right, but it is the law, or at least the interpretation of it, and if we don't follow the dictates, we are considered a criminal. When I was a child, we didn't have child proof containers, seatbelts, people fell off bicycles, heck :grin: I even ran in hallways carrying a pointed scissors. It was accepted. In an attempt to protect us from ourselves, all this has changed. Is it a good thing, or a bad thing, I don't know either, but it definitely cramps my style.
     
  13. grinningremlin

    grinningremlin Active Member

    Sub, kindly watch the "necroposting" in long dead threads.
     
  14. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    But is there any harm in resurrecting a thread that has died?

    It's true that the OP, and contributors, are not likely to see the new additions. But others will. And they'll ponder the info contained.

    So should a thread ever be dead-for-good?
     
  15. Pablo

    Pablo Motored Bikes Sponsor

    2008! Holy smokes.

    Well if someone reads this and kicks safety up a notch or four, I don't see the harm in resurrection.
     
  16. grinningremlin

    grinningremlin Active Member

    Point taken, but if it's old enough for elementary school, I'm of the opinion "just start a new thread".
     
  17. bluegoatwoods

    bluegoatwoods Well-Known Member

    Thinking about it, there's another reason that I actually like seeing old threads pop up.

    It's the chance to see posts from some of the old members who have now disappeared. I miss most of them. They were mostly good natured and sometimes humorous. It'd be nice to see them back here again.

    There's one in this thread, even, who I argued with fairly often. I didn't think of him as a friend at all. But he had some redeeming qualities. I even kinda, sorta miss him for that. Don't miss him too much, mind you. But a little bit.

    Many of those folks were quite likable. It's a shame they've moved on.
     
  18. grinningremlin

    grinningremlin Active Member

    I believe you're right, and I'm wrong.I only search what's on my mind, or read new threads, if someone bumps a thread with info that I wouldn't search, but is useful, I may learn something.
     
  19. Big Red

    Big Red Active Member

    I've been guilty a few times of not looking at the posting date. I bet the guy would have been a LOT better off if he was wearing a helmet, BUT , not gonna get into that AGAIN, LOTS of helmet posts and threads already.
    Big Red.
     
  20. velzie

    velzie Member

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