Spookytooth Desert Rat Four Stroke

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by skyl4rk, Jun 11, 2007.

  1. skyl4rk

    skyl4rk Guest

    Anybody have a Spookytooth Desert Rat Four Stroke?

    I just broke out the plastic and ordered one. It looks great, with a 49cc 4 stroke Hua Sheng motor. I almost bought a 2 cycle from Spookytooth last year but backed off. I'm glad, I really prefer a 4 cycle.

    Spookytooth website seemed to be down for a while but the shopping cart is working now.

  2. OldPete

    OldPete Guest

    MotorbikeMike commented on having a China 4 stroke with a gearbox on its side. Just might be a Hua Sheng.
    Mike just might share internal pics of it with us and offer his educated opinion.

    I have not seen one posted here since I registered and I atleast look at, if not read every thread, everyday.

    There are pics of one mounted in frame over in the Picture Gallery, iirc.

    I am kinda interested in this Chinese motor because it is not inexpensive and do hope it lives up to its cost. As I recall, it is rated at a fairly high rpm.

    Hi and welcome to this board skyl4rk :smile:
  3. SlicerDicer

    SlicerDicer Guest

    Wonder when the engines themself will go for sale not on a bike :grin:
  4. skyl4rk

    skyl4rk Guest

    It looks like Grubee Inc is selling this type of motor (or very similar) wholesale. I would post a link but I'm not allowed yet.
  5. SlicerDicer

    SlicerDicer Guest

    I know that grubee sells them wholesale just no idea who is selling them or will be selling them as a standalone motor kit.
  6. Egor

    Egor Guest

    I saw the 4 stroke kit on Ebay yesterday, it looks like the GruBee it has the filler plug for the oil in the gear box, the one fella in the new posts is installing one on the red bike, looks like he is an excellent fabricator. Have fun, Dave

    PS: I have some larger China knock off Honda's, so far they are OK 5 HP.
  7. skyl4rk

    skyl4rk Guest

  8. skyl4rk

    skyl4rk Guest

    This is going to be the look I am going for, an old DKW 125.



    Its not going to be a copy, I'm just going to add black fenders (maybe with pinstriping) and a old fashioned black bike headlight. If I can find a bigger tank that hangs over the top bar I will do that too. Anybody know a place to buy small motorcycle gas tanks?

    Haven't heard from Spookytooth yet, hmmm

    I think the DKW 125's have just the right look, even better than the old BMW's.






  9. SlicerDicer

    SlicerDicer Guest

    Heh DKW's are awesome :) such beautiful vehicles from the Auto Union.. Too bad they do not make them anymore it will be interesting to see how this turns out.
  10. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    thanks skyl4rk
    those are sweet pics
    they gave me some hints on making a different seat setup for my chopper :D :D :D
  11. gone_fishin

    gone_fishin Guest

    boy, that desert rat sure is a nice kit/frame combo, it looks great 8)
  12. Egor

    Egor Guest

    After the war BSA continued to make that bike as the Bantum, also Hearly Davidson brought it out as the Pacer, you can still find them, but they also changed it later to a swing arm and glide front end. I know where there is a Bantum with no engine. Have fun Dave
  13. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    I saw your pics in the other forum
    I am anxious to hear how roland's gearbox works
    (whine - I wanna 4stroke !!! - end whine) :lol:
    has the gear noise gone away? :?
    that was the bad deal last generation of these guys :???:
    please keep us informed :D
  14. OldPete

    OldPete Guest

    My primary disappointment about this 4 stroke, as if anyone cared :eek: .

    The primary is a dry case. Dang! They should have fitted a wet clutch and used oil to lube the gears. All these issues the Chinese are offering us were addressed in motorcycling back in the '30s~'60s. This is like reliving a classic past w/o the cla$$ic benefit. Sheesh!
  15. Egor

    Egor Guest

    The new ones are wet. I think if you check around, if I'm not mistaken you can put ATF in that case. I read that all your missing is the fill and drain plugs, the internals are the same, Don GruBee I think is the one that developed that gearbox, I have watched the evolution on the net. that engine is awesome but I don't like the looks. I'm waiting for a remake of the Flying Merkel engine. Have fun Dave
  16. ivan44

    ivan44 Guest

    Desert Rat 4 Stroke

    I got mine about 2 weeks ago. The frame is very nice - strong as an ox. The motor runs great but I had a little hiccup with the gearbox. I had it partially assembled and they did a great job. Contacted Roland and he's hooking me up with a 80cc 2 stroke next week.

    My wet clutch won't disengage. Roland said it's a manufacturing glitch. I'm supposed to fedex the 4stroke back when I get my new motor but if I can figure out a way to make a go of it with a go-kart clutch and possible new or different gearbox I'm just gonna call Roland and ask how much I owe him for the replacement motor and hang onto both engines. If your having issues give him a call I know he was bustin his butt trying to get the gearbox thing figured out and that dude knows his stuff. He's allready answered a ton of ?'s for me.
    I'm just dying now that I got my feet wet breakin in my first motor and have been sideline with a maint issue. My wife says I'm like a caged animal. I'm counting the seconds until my new motor shows up so I can get back on the road. On top of that a bunch of guys at work are using me as the guinee pig. Everyone wants to see how good my bike from them really is.
    Besides the gearing issues - my Desert Rat is a great way to go- I'm all ready looking at bike #2. I either am gonna go with a triple tree on a Spooky setup with a fat chopper rear tire or go 180 degrees and do an agressive mtn bike ride with a 50cc from Staton. Either way I can see I need to have another bike sitting in the shadows in case of a breakdown.

    Every morning I have to get in my minivan with a car seat I think I cry a little. I can't afford a Hog and now that I got a sweet set up from Roland and his guys I can't see myself on anything else. Just need to hit the lotto so I can get one of each of his bikes!!!

  17. skyl4rk

    skyl4rk Guest

    I am going with the 2 stroke now too. I would rather have the four stroke but the gearbox problems nixed that. I specced out all the stuff needed to make a DKW mini-replica. I'm gonna try to build a fiberglass tank that fits over the top bar like this:


    Its actually "right" because DKW's were 2 strokers. The one pictured was 125cc.

    *impatiently waiting*
  18. ironwarlock

    ironwarlock Guest

    DAMN. Thats a good looking bike.
  19. vintagebiker

    vintagebiker Guest

    I'm sure you must know but ebay is a good place to find old motorcycle gas tanks.