that THING's a motorized bicycle or moped ?

Discussion in 'General Questions' started by Mountainman, Jul 22, 2009.

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You Riding a Motorized Bicycle or a Moped ???

  1. Motorized Bicycle

    87.9%
  2. Moped

    12.1%
  1. Mountainman

    Mountainman Active Member

    ok after going round and round on one of my threads here on site
    with the moondoggie dude -- new guy with less than 20 posts

    it seems moondoggie says that we are not riding motorized bicycles
    and that we are riding mopeds

    he seems to have the technical information to back him up ??

    but -- this is a poll regarding what do you call your THING ??

    a motorized bicycle ???
    or
    a moped ???

    and also to be noted here
    what does your state call that THING ??
    here in Calif I am happy to say that I am riding a motorized bicycle THING

    due to the low HP
    no turn lights
    no elect horn
    no battery
    light weight of bike with motor
    I consider mine to be a ((((( motorized bicycle )))))

    could not get away with out advising everyone to ride that THING
    hard today
    and into the night
    sweet little THING
    that's what I like !!! ----------------- a motorized bike..............................
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2009

  2. johnrobholmes

    johnrobholmes Member

    per missouri law, it is a moped.
     
  3. lordoflightaz

    lordoflightaz Member

    Name that thing

    Well Motor Assisted Bicycle or Pedal Assisted Bicycle come to mind as well.

    Thinking I might do something in AZ I snagged http://azmotorizedbikes.info/ to be able to put something together. Nothing there yet, but I was renewing another domain and it was $1.99.
     
  4. Pablo

    Pablo Motored Bikes Sponsor

    My things are bikes with engines.
     
  5. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    Clear to me what I'm riding, a motorized bicycle because I can remove the motorized parts in a half hour and pedal away.

    The state I live in has a moped law which heretofore I've pretty much ignored.
    Those who might find it hard to ignore ride those clumsy things with nameplates like Puch, Sachs, Batavus, Tomos, etc. or the little step-through scooters with full covers and little windshields.

    For that reason I've coined the phrase putting me right up there in the annals with that Swedish moped guy Neilsen, and Moondog can quote me here though it doesn't appear on Wikipedia yet lol, .........PEDMO © 2009, .....as seen here on my blog. :devilish: :devilish:
    http://alttransbikes.blogspot.com/
     
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  6. moondog

    moondog Member

    Mountain man you are so confused

    Mountainman, I am not a new member, I have been a member longer than you have.

    I never said we are not riding motorized bicycles.

    What I am saying is that a motorized bicycle IS a moped.

    That is what they are called across the pond. I showed you where the word came from and what it means.

    To say a motorized bicycle is NOT a moped is just plain silly !

    So, the simple answer to your poll is, YES ! We are riding motorized bicycles or mopeds.

    Your poll question is like asking "are you eating a grilled cheese or a sandwich" ?

    A grilled cheese IS a sandwich. Hello ?
     
  7. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    per AZ revised statute HB 2796 SECTION 28-2516;

    "MOTORIZED ELECTRIC OR GAS
    24 POWERED BICYCLE OR TRICYCLE" MEANS A BICYCLE OR TRICYCLE THAT IS EQUIPPED
    25 WITH A HELPER MOTOR THAT HAS A MAXIMUM PISTON DISPLACEMENT OF FORTY-EIGHT
    26 CUBIC CENTIMETERS OR LESS, THAT MAY ALSO BE SELF-PROPELLED AND THAT IS
    27 OPERATED AT SPEEDS OF LESS THAN TWENTY MILES PER HOUR"
     
  8. azbill

    azbill Active Member

    a moped generally has the pedal-crank running through the engine as well
    a motor assisted bicycle has the pedal-crank running apart from the engine
     
  9. moondog

    moondog Member

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  10. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

  11. moondog

    moondog Member

    poll suggestion

    How many people on this forum wants a motorized bicycle that only goes 20 mph or less ?
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2009
  12. Happy Valley

    Happy Valley Active Member

    Another leading question without giving incremental range. Speed is always an incremental variable.

    One thing thing for sure is 9 out of 10 so far want to call a motorized bicycle a motorized bicycle, lol.
     
  13. moondog

    moondog Member

    Right. If I yank the 48cc motor off my solex, put on an 80cc made in China motor, yank off the lights can I then drive it without a license ?

    Without lights it becomes a motorized bicycle and not a moped right ?

    Then like mountain man says " ride into the night ". :idea:
     
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  14. moondog

    moondog Member

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  15. icyuod2

    icyuod2 Member

    actually most of the moped i've had over the years had a seperate pedal crank. if you can't peddle the moped without the use of an engine, its not a moped. :)
     
  16. HoughMade

    HoughMade Guest

    If you want to talk about legal definitions, you will have to do a 50 state survey (plus Canada and wherever else we have members).

    There is no nationwide definition of "moped" versus "motorized bicycle".

    Having been an attorney for nearly 11 years and a law professor for some time, I feel pretty confident about that. Some refer to the CPSC regs about electric bicycles, but even there, the differentiation is not "moped" to "motorized bicycle"

    ...and why the heck does this matter anyway?
     
  17. icyuod2

    icyuod2 Member

  18. give me vtec

    give me vtec Active Member

    I say what we ride are motorized bicycles because they started life as a bicycle, then we added a motor to "motorize them". On a motorized bicycle almost any engine will work with some innovation. A moped is designed from the manufacturer to have the engine... it comes with the engine installed already from the factory... it is more of a small motorcycle with pedals. On a moped only the specific engine from the factory will work.
     
  19. moondog

    moondog Member

    I don't know

    I have been calling bicycles with motors mopeds since the 60's. That's what all the boys called them. It is shorter and easier to say than motorized bicycles.

    Now people want to call them motorized bicycles ? Sounds more macho ? More high tech ?
    I don't get it.

    What is so wrong with calling them what we have been calling them for decades ?

    Sorry, call it whatever you want but don't try this ol' boy with it's a motorized bicycle and not a moped ! :rolleyes7:

    Peace
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2009
  20. give me vtec

    give me vtec Active Member

    you get to call it whatever you want to... that is why this is America.

    According to the merriam-webster dictionary

    "mo·ped Listen to the pronunciation of moped
    Pronunciation:
    \ˈmō-ˌped\
    Function:
    noun
    Etymology:
    Swedish, from motor motor + pedal pedal
    Date:
    1955

    : a lightweight low-powered motorbike that can be pedaled"


    the term "motorized bicycle" does not technically exist as far as the merriam-webster dictionary is concerned.

    However the Cambridge dictionary refers to motorized as...


    "motorized
    adjective
    1 specially fitted with an engine or motor:
    a motorized wheelchair

    2 Soldiers who are motorized are provided with wheeled vehicles which have engines:
    motorized infantry"

    So technically what we drive is a bicycle that is specially fitted with an engine or motor... therefore can be classified as a "motorized bicycle". The webster dictionary definition I think proves what I said earlier. A moped is a motorcycle first, but can also be pedaled. A motorized bicycle is a bike first that can also be powered by a small motor.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2009
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